Collusion Between Al-Journalism and Government Traitors

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Sam123, Jun 30, 2006.

  1. Sam123

    Sam123 Guest

    It’s obvious our government lacks the competence to keep sensitive information from a hostile media, and weed out the traitors who work inside and collude with Journalists.

    I bring this up because Al-Associated Press has a new one:

    “U.S. troops accused of killing Iraq family”

    This story is in their classic format: they begin with an eye catching slug, followed by information always coming from some “official” in government who “told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.” This is the same phrase they use over and over and over again.

    Then they use the opportunity to repeat a previous event to advance their anti-Bush, anti-Iraq campaign agenda (in this case Haditha), and then wrap it up by using their “source” to negate anything officially coming from government.

    And by the time the real truth of this incident comes out through slow official bureaucratic channels, it will be ignored by media and overshadowed by a new atrocity coming out like clockwork, manufactured by media and their anonymous traitorous sources working in government.

    While government should become ruthless at catching and removing its internal spies, Journalism should be shamed for it’s epidemic of malpractice. They can hide behind the First Amendment, but they can’t hide from our shame.

    "I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are." --William T. Sherman
  2. Sam123

    Sam123 Guest

    Here’s the AP article from Yahoo, because I can’t find a permalink:

    By RYAN LENZ, Associated Press Writer
    47 minutes ago

    BEIJI, Iraq - Five U.S. soldiers are being investigated for allegedly raping a young woman, then killing her and three relatives, an American military official said Friday, describing the latest allegations of abuse of Iraqi civilians.

    The soldiers also allegedly burned the body of the woman they are accused of assaulting in the March incident, the official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.

    The U.S. command issued a sparse statement, saying Maj. Gen. James D. Thurman, commander of coalition troops in Baghdad, had ordered a criminal investigation into the alleged killing of a family of four in Mahmoudiyah, south of Baghdad. The statement had no other details.

    The case represents the latest allegations against U.S. soldiers stemming from the deaths of Iraqis. At least 14 U.S. troops have been convicted.

    The United States also is investigating allegations that two dozen unarmed Iraqi civilians were killed by U.S. Marines in the western town of Haditha on Nov. 19 in a revenge attack after one of their own died in a roadside bombing.

    "The entire investigation will encompass everything that could have happened that evening. We're not releasing any specifics of an ongoing investigation," military spokesman Maj. Todd Breasseale said of the Mahmoudiyah allegations.

    "There is no indication what led soldiers to this home. The investigation just cracked open. We're just beginning to dig into the details."

    Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said he had no additional details on the incident but added that the military routinely investigates all allegations of misconduct.

    However, a U.S. official close to the investigation said at least one of the soldiers, all assigned to the 502nd Infantry Regiment, has admitted his role and been arrested. Two soldiers from the same regiment were slain this month when they were kidnapped at a checkpoint near Youssifiyah.

    The official told the AP the accused soldiers were from the same platoon as the two slain soldiers. The military has said one and possibly both of the slain soldiers were tortured and beheaded.

    The official said the mutilation of the slain soldiers stirred feelings of guilt and led at least one of them to reveal the rape-slaying on June 22.

    According to a senior Army official, the alleged incident was first revealed by a soldier during a routine counseling-type session. The official, who requested anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, said that soldier did not witness the incident but heard about it.

    A second soldier, who also was not involved, said he overhead soldiers conspiring to commit the crimes, and then later saw bloodstains on their clothes, the official said.

    He also said the four people killed included three adults and a child, and one of the adults was the woman who allegedly was raped.

    One of the accused soldiers already has been discharged and is believed to be in the United States, several U.S. officials said on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing. The others have had their weapons taken away and are confined to Forward Operating Base Mahmoudiyah.

    Senior officers were aware of the family's death but believed it was due to sectarian violence, common in the religiously mixed town, a U.S. official said.

    The killings appeared to have been a "crime of opportunity," the official said. The soldiers had not been attacked by insurgents but had noticed the woman on previous patrols.


    AP correspondent Ryan Lenz is embedded with the 101st Airborne Division in Beiji, Iraq. He was previously embedded with the 502nd Infantry Regiment in Mahmoudiyah.


    The Associated Press News and Information Research Center and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to this report.

  3. Freedom of speech... freedom of press...

    When will the Republican party be controlled by republicans again?
  4. Read this over and over again until it sinks into your thick head:

    "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

    -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


    Damn right we need a hostile media, especially with an overreaching administration as we now have.

    Or alternatively...go back to listening to the un-American ranting of the legions of right wing radio bozos who care about nothing but making a slimey buck.

    A sucker is born every just happened to be coming along at the right time.


  5. Thanks Bloodtrader. TGregg, you listening?
  6. fhl


    Tgregg and I don't listen to traitors.
  7. Pabst


    Herman Goering never uttered this statement at the Nuremberg trials.
  8. Ricter


    Both of you should be more interested in seeking the truth than you are in what the source is. If a fool says 1+1=2, he is nevertheless correct.

    As for the Goering statement, fact or not, the principle is correct. People really are that easy to manipulate by government. And if they're not, then they're traitors, right?
  9. I have no idea about this, so I guess BloodTrader will provide the citation if it exists. I wonder what makes you say that he never said it - are you a Goering scholar?

    I'll just say real quick - I wish I had copied the link, but someone recently commented on how Republicans have seem to have completely forgotten the values that used to define them as Republican. Wasn't one of them freedom of speech? I mean, set aside for a moment the NYT actions. What is it that Al Qaeda object to about our lifestyle? Hmmm... let's see. I guess that would be the right we grant our citizens to say and think what they want and to act as they want as long as it doesn't run them afoul of (secularly defined) laws. Does anyone believe, with this administration in charge, that if the NYT broke a law, they won't have the AG down their throats sooner rather than later?

    It is fascinating to watch the right in America abandoning the very values that the Muslim maniacs are attacking.

    With the Dems now clueing in and starting a massive effort to show that they have something for Christians, the Republicans are doomed for the next election, at least as long as their entire platform is based on throwing shit against the walls in the hope that some of it sticks.


    whoops - this will do, I guess
  10. Pabst


    You know better than that, Ricter. Who can't manipulate us? Women do, price action does, Madison Ave does, ect.

    Government isn't some special, omnipotent, thought controlling device. And neither is the hot chick who'll stroke you for free drinks. It's our own hang-ups and pre-conceptions that haunt our intuition and judgement.....
    #10     Jun 30, 2006