I agree... I we have loan availability competing with reasonably priced tuition. We need some sort of third party loan worthiness appraisal system that caps the amount someone can borrow for tier 1 vs tier 2 vs online vs cosmetology school. Perhaps the tiers can also be tied into to the payback rate of the major. So pre med can borrow more than political science majors. but if uconn students pay back better than dartmouth students over time they can borrow more and dartmouth less.
The US has 2.5 million criminals currently in prison wasting their time and taxpayers cash. Surely they could benefit from DVDs and online education ? Time rich you might say ?
Just to take the above theme a step forward someone could come up with an innovative idea, like:- getting the science orientated prisoners togethor and offer them inducements to work on science projects - like cold fusion, electric car batteries etc. The results would astound the average clot !!
That might be a bit on the low side for an associate professors, depending on discipline and region of the country. For full professors at schools with graduate programs it would be more like 30-50K/course and up, depending on the same factors. But please recognize that dividing a professors salary by the number of courses taught makes little sense in many cases. Undergraduates often don't have a clue what their professors really do for a living. They think the only time they are working is when they are in the classroom. They don't realize that many are paying a good part, or all of their salaries via overhead. Top notch talent, training, and experience, does not come cheap. Of course, the situation at community and junior colleges is different. It takes a lot of money, sacrifice, and especially hard work to move from labor to capital in a single generation. Starting out at junior college, or worse yet, with an online degree, makes it even harder to do. It is much easier if you have a degree from a top notch undergraduate institution with very high admission standards. (Just attending is not enough, however. ) It's unacceptable to me that many students are, in a practical sense, relegated to labor for the rest of their lives, and likely their offspring as well, not because of their innate ability, but because they didn't have access to a good grade and secondary education. That's something we must fix, and going to charter, and private schools is not the right way to fix that problem. That's just an admission that we've given up. (Preschool through fourth grade is the most critical element. Remedial programs are an inefficient, ineffective waste of time and money-- the goal should be to make them virtually unnecessary.) There is a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy going on here among those who say the public schools can't be fixed. As schools get worse, and as time goes by, we end up with an increasingly greater fraction of the population being poorly educated, but still voting; still running for public office; still posting on ET. Ever so gradually, people less, and less able to make good decisions are moving into decision making positions.
When the Steve Jobs' are gone what have we left ? Mostly the yes men they employed. Booted and suited willing to work 9 - 5 and not stick their necks out too much or break into a sweat ? The old adage applies - that a boss will never employ a person with greater ability than himself. So standards slip. Mediocre people take over. The do-gooders want ethnic diversity, women whether they are capable or not, a few physically and mentally challenged too. Carrying that sort of load soon wears out the capable. Put politicians high up on the list of time/money wasters too. No political qualifications, probably more interested in feathering their own nests etc. With rampant democracy, advancing the incompetent and the useless, not surprisingly there is a $16.7 trillion dollar debt and no real hope on the horizon. I can see a slide into rule by the military. They have the muscle but never do any good.
somewhere a tear dropped but not by me, lol.. poor profs when will the world wake up and realize that college is brainwashing communist submission camp. general rule for the sheep - "ANYTHING" the gov thinks is a good idea and supports is bad for you. what do they push - reverse mortgages, owning a home, saving, college education, tolerance blah blah blah.. red pill? blue pill? you can't even choose anymore better start learning chinese to whom you have been sold.
Humpy, perhaps the "old adage" is misleading. The best leaders are secure in their knowledge, highly aware of human fallibility, emotionally stable, practice what they preach, and do all within their power to surround themselves with the most competent people they can find, and listen to them. What Apple is experiencing was inevitable no matter who was at the helm. Jobs might have been better at vanquishing the competition. We will never know. "Every dog has his day." -- common wisdom. ____________________________ "Common wisdom -- is almost always wrong." -- Gore Vidal.
You either went to college, or you are widely read to have realized that! However, for you to make a general statement, except in jest, such as: " when will the world wake up and realize that college is brainwashing communist submission camp. ..."ANYTHING" the gov thinks is a good idea and supports is bad for you," tells me that you have much to learn. To help you recognize this I suggest you look at examples of countries where there is no government and education.