College Admissions Question - getting into top schools

newwurldmn · Jul 14, 2017

jem said:
that is funny. I laughed pretty hard.

you know if we did not have dnc trolls on this board all you would see from me is libertarian ideas plus low taxes. When I was younger and hung out, many of my friends were liberal granola types and surfers. I always believe that if you leave me alone I will leave you alone to do what you wish as long as you don't harm others. I would also not people that did not seem that smart 20 years ago... after 20 to 25 years running a business or being in law enforcement or administrators in the school system... can become pretty damn smart... and now when you see them at a gathering or a sporting event... many will tell you how their systems are being screwed up and how they are against all bad govt crap. These people were people who leaned left in their 20s... so maybe its an age thing. People get smart in the 40s if they have to run things.

Last year I spoke at the democrat club in town here. some of members there were more conservative than I was on quite a few issues... many were concerned about taxes and immigration.

When I worked for a prosecutor's office in the 90s I was one of the most liberal people there. (old school liberal) i did not take the job they offered me in part because I did want to cross over constitutional lines I saw cops and prosecutors cross too often. I know multiple judges who are to the right of me who are considered fair or even leftist judges down at the court house.

I even know school teachers who are to the right me me. When I go to parties I don't even have to open my mouth because most people are to the right of me and make good arguments.

so while the dnc is far left of me and some of the crazies on this board are too... in real life most of suburbia and many others are to the right of me.

And, on constitutional issues there is no doubt I am more liberal than most of them.
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Your posts in PNR don't indicate anything you have said here.

Makes you wonder about how bad the internet is for exchanging nuanced ideas.

RRY16 · Jul 14, 2017

jem said:
that is funny. I laughed pretty hard.

you know if we did not have dnc trolls on this board all you would see from me is libertarian ideas plus low taxes. When I was younger and hung out, many of my friends were liberal granola types and surfers. I always believe that if you leave me alone I will leave you alone to do what you wish as long as you don't harm others. I would also not people that did not seem that smart 20 years ago... after 20 to 25 years running a business or being in law enforcement or administrators in the school system... can become pretty damn smart... and now when you see them at a gathering or a sporting event... many will tell you how their systems are being screwed up and how they are against all bad govt crap. These people were people who leaned left in their 20s... so maybe its an age thing. People get smart in the 40s if they have to run things.

Last year I spoke at the democrat club in town here. some of members there were more conservative than I was on quite a few issues... many were concerned about taxes and immigration.

When I worked for a prosecutor's office in the 90s I was one of the most liberal people there. (old school liberal) i did not take the job they offered me in part because I did want to cross over constitutional lines I saw cops and prosecutors cross too often. I know multiple judges who are to the right of me who are considered fair or even leftist judges down at the court house.

I even know school teachers who are to the right me me. When I go to parties I don't even have to open my mouth because most people are to the right of me and make good arguments.

so while the dnc is far left of me and some of the crazies on this board are too... in real life most of suburbia and many others are to the right of me.

And, on constitutional issues there is no doubt I am more liberal than most of them.
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Your Actions and your words say otherwise, you stir up way to much just to keep the dnc trolls inline, on the other hand if you're getting paid that would make sense otherwise you sick Man.

jem · Jul 14, 2017

and I note as I read these boards a very high percentage of your posts are cheap or nasty shots out of the blue. I doubt you are that way in real life.

so i think you are mistaken if you think you can read a person accurately off et.

RRY16 said:
Your Actions and your words say otherwise, you stir up way to much just to keep the dnc trolls inline, on the other hand if you're getting paid that would make sense otherwise you sick Man.
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jem · Jul 14, 2017

it depends on the forum. I my opinion it takes a lot of disciplined to stay civil here because of all the trolls. I admire those who do. I post in between phone calls or in the past trades. I lost patience a long time ago.

newwurldmn said:
Your posts in PNR don't indicate anything you have said here.

Makes you wonder about how bad the internet is for exchanging nuanced ideas.
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RRY16 · Jul 14, 2017

jem said:
and I note as I read these boards a very high percentage of your posts are cheap or nasty shots out of the blue. I doubt you are that way in real life.

so i think you are mistaken if you think you can read a person accurately off et.
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I troll trolls, B.Sers, frauds, clickbaiter,basically the majority.

sle · Jul 17, 2017

newwurldmn said:
A college admissions admin at Harvard was interviewed in the New York Times. He said they could admit a whole class and then a second whole class and then a third whole class from a given years admission pool and the third would be the same quality as the first. Life is potentially very different for the person in that first class and the third hypothetical class.
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Yeah, and it also shows that the school is a bit full of it IMHO, there is very little difference in life-expected value between the top schools (e.g. I doubt someones life would change if they've gone to Cornell vs Harvard) but at some point there is step-down that's very drastic. It's hard to pinpoint what's "the worst good school" exactly is, though.

PS. reminds me of my coworker who rearranged his "Stanford" car sticker into "Snodfart"

newwurldmn · Jul 17, 2017

sle said:
Yeah, and it also shows that the school is a bit full of it IMHO, there is very little difference in life-expected value between the top schools (e.g. I doubt someones life would change if they've gone to Cornell vs Harvard) but at some point there is step-down that's very drastic. It's hard to pinpoint what's "the worst good school" exactly is, though.

PS. reminds me of my coworker who rearranged his "Stanford" car sticker into "Snodfart"
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I think the worst good school (practically speaking) is the lowest ranked school that banks will Recruit at. That's where the life-expected value drops. My experience through my family members and friends who went to Wharton, mit, and Harvard was that they did have better access to opportunities. For example DE Shaw doesn't interview at Cornell but does interview and hire from Harvard. And on the entrepreneurial side the opportunities are even better: which is why there are far fewer tech billionaires from Cornell than from Harvard despite Cornell's engineering being bigger than all of Harvard.

The article was about how full of themselves Harvard was. They quoted one college interview where the recruiter asked the prospect what makes them special and the prospect replied "i speak Chinese." The prospect was white. The recruiters response was "1/2 of Harvard speaks Chinese. What else"