Cocoa futures

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by schizo, Jan 19, 2024.

  1. Picaso

    Picaso

    I doubt it's any consolation to you, but I've had a similar situation lately with USDJPY :D

    Now I think how much I would have made IF ONLY I HAD FOLLOWED THE TREND and it makes me want to pull my hair...
     
    #71     Apr 25, 2024
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  2. schizo

    schizo

    It's not. :) And I bet this damn thing tanks hard now that I'm all out.

    You and I are like hopeless drunks. Knowing is one thing. Following it is another. :banghead:
     
    #72     Apr 25, 2024
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  3. nitrene

    nitrene

    If Cocoa supply goes down 50% shouldn't the price be around $6,000 (it was ~$3,000 before Covid hit)? Why is it $11,000+?
     
    #73     Apr 28, 2024
  4. newbunch

    newbunch

    Depends on the elasticity of demand.
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    #74     Apr 28, 2024
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  5. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    Nice memory from my high school economics course. :) Simply put not enough people are prepared to change their habit of buying cocoa based products unless it's a heck of a lot more expensive, especially since a lot of products are not pure cocoa and will not increase in price as dramatically as cocoa does relatively speaking. Btw for someone seeing them for the first time: those perfectly straight lines are of course abstract made up examples to illustrate the point, not that the demand function of price is necessarily linear in reality.
     
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    #75     Apr 28, 2024
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  6. nitrene

    nitrene

    Yeah that makes sense. Most people love their chocolate products. I remember during the pandemic that Nutella prices skyrocketed in the aftermath of shortages.

    The only pure play short I could come up with is shorting Hersheys. It does keep going down so it has worked so far.
     
    #76     Apr 28, 2024
  7. schizo

    schizo

    They must have read your post. Yowza, this is the biggest plunge to date!

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    #77     Apr 29, 2024
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  8. nitrene

    nitrene

    Looks like the uptrend is broken, of course it ocould just go back to the Feb highs of $6,500 which is what I would have thought with a 50% supply shock. Maybe demand destruction is finally here.
     
    #78     Apr 29, 2024
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  9. long

    long

    I haven’t noticed the price of chocolate going up at the grocery store. I’d say that demand for the end products hasn’t changed yet. Be on the lookout for a revision of supply estimates.
     
    #79     Apr 29, 2024
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  10. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    From MorningBrew yesterday:-

    Stat: Chocolate may not be on its way to becoming a bigger luxury flex than watches or handbags after all, as cocoa prices appear to be coming out of their extra-dark phase. Since hitting a record high on April 19, the price of cocoa futures has slumped more than 20%, per Bloomberg. Prices plunged in both New York and London yesterday, creating the commodity’s biggest intraday price drop since 1960 in New York and settling at its lowest price in a month, Bloomberg reports. Driving the slump are traders pulling out as margin requirements have climbed, but some agriculture watchers caution that the bean shortage that caused the high prices remains ongoing.
     
    #80     May 1, 2024