Cocoa futures

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by schizo, Jan 19, 2024.

  1. Picaso

    Picaso

    As I understand it, the article refers to producers SELLING, not SELLING SHORT. They are selling the beans they already have or will soon have. The problem for them is the timing, because they are not allowed to deliver the physical product until the settlement date... meanwhile, they still need to meet margin requirements...

    Producers selling on the spot, no problem.

    The farmers themselves are never either long nor short, they probably don't even know WTF a futures contract is (in fact, I saw a documentary where most had never tasted chocolate).
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2024
    #61     Mar 28, 2024
  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

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    Colombia pushes cacao over coca

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    Colombia’s government launched a campaign to help coca growers transition to cultivating cacao, as the price of the bean soared to historic highs. Demand for cacao — the source ingredient for chocolate — has jumped as climate change and El Niño, a warm-weather pattern, have disrupted output in West Africa, which typically accounts for 80% of global production. The shortfall has pushed prices to 150% above last year’s levels. Meanwhile a global cocaine glut has sent coca prices crashing. Besides driving economic growth, Colombian producers’ shift to growing cacao could ease violence across South America: A rise in coca production is largely responsible for having turned once-peaceful Ecuador and Perú into some of the most violent countries in the world.
     
    #62     Apr 4, 2024
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    It is an unsustainable bull run, due to demand destruction.
     
    #63     Apr 5, 2024
  4. maxinger

    maxinger


    Unfortunately, Ivory Coast cocoa farmers are very poor.
     
    #64     Apr 5, 2024
  5. schizo

    schizo

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    #65     Apr 16, 2024
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  6. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    #66     Apr 18, 2024
  7. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Just a reflexion. The market seems to be pushing up again because of the resilience of grindings, but I am not sure the beans in question have been bought after february. If those are stocks from last year or whatever, of course they will grind them now. And the retail prices of chocolate aren't translating the price hikes at all, even if easter chocolates seemed expensive.
     
    #67     Apr 18, 2024
  8. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Actually, my comment was stupid. If some big chocolate makers have some stocks right now, they should sell it, not grind it when the added value of chocolate is relatively low.
     
    #68     Apr 18, 2024
  9. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    #69     Apr 25, 2024
  10. schizo

    schizo

    Yeah, I kinda found about that the hard way. Shorting here, shorting there, shorting everywhere. I swear I'm never eating another chocolate, ever!

    Oh gawd, won't you save this lost soul???


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    #70     Apr 25, 2024