CNN SUCKS!!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Jun 17, 2021.


  1. The last chart shows more liberals watch MSNBC....
     
    #21     Aug 19, 2022

  2. No. It does not.

    It shows that the majority of MSNBC's viewers are liberal.

    I don't know about recent data, but in past years the data has shown that - because Fox's actual number of viewers is so large that their minority of liberal viewers- talking real numbers not percentages was/is actually larger than MSNBC's majority.
     
    #22     Aug 19, 2022
  3. First let's overlook the fact the Mercor took data from 2018...not surprised his research skills are outdated.


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    Fox News was the only cable news network to see an increase year-over-year—in total day ratings, with an average audience of 1.35 million viewers—up 13% from the same period one year ago. MSNBC was second overall with 765,000 viewers (down 1%) and CNN finished third with 541,000 viewers (down 15%). 8-2-22

    12% of 1,350,000 FOX Viewers Liberal = 162,000

    37% of 765,000 MSNBC Viewers Liberal = 283,000

    MSNBC has more liberal viewers based on the data.

    FOX Viewers = 1,350,000

    CNN/MSNBC Viewers = 1,306,000

    Basically the audience is evenly split between liberal (CNN/MSNBC) and conservative (FOX) cable stations. FOX is ahead because they are the only real choice for conservative viewers. Liberal viewers are divded between two networks as well as the main news channels.

    I would expect FOX to have a slight edge due to being able to represent all conservative and moderate viewpoints as well as be outrageous enough at times to enrage liberals who tune in via the Howard Stern Effect (so offended they tune in just to see what they will say next).

    All 3 of them are crap to be honest....
     
    #23     Aug 19, 2022
  4. Mercor

    Mercor

    Primetime number are much different
     
    #24     Aug 19, 2022
  5. Yep. I am okay with El Concho's analysis but I have seen a pantload of article headlines that cut the data different ways to give a different picture.

    Some include different time slots, others different genres. Some look at dems vs. republicans, other look at self-identifying libs vs. conservatives even though many are independents. So on and so forth. And then there is the definition of "viewer" or "viewing". I flat out do not watch MSNBC but I see some CNN as part of channel surfing. So am I a CNN viewer?

    Speaking of "prime time," as I said earlier Rachel Mad Cow has just left MSNBC and her replacement seems like a dud to me and she is on across from Laura Ingraham or Ingram. I suspect Laura is gonna win with that arrangement. Laura had quite a few programs of her own in the past that all poopled out. Mostly because she tried to go it alone rather than have guests. But she seems to have her current one on solid ground after many years of failure. Tucker had some failures too but prevailed.

    One of the practical implications of all of this is that the smart dem politicians go over on Fox and try to make it work as best they can, which is often fairly well. There are pile of dem voters watching Fox even if we quibble about the numbers.

    to your point:
    More Democrats watch Fox News during prime time than CNN: data
    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...watch-fox-news-during-primetime-than-cnndata/
     
    #25     Aug 19, 2022

  6. msnbc and cnn basically fight over the same audience and their quality has taken a huge nose dive in the 8pm -11pm slots. CNBC has added new at night so now you have a 3rd person fighting over an audience.

    i think at the end it becomes meaningless who watches what....
     
    #26     Aug 19, 2022
  7. Mercor

    Mercor

    This is a valid point
    The total audience of cable news is 5-10 million daily
    Represents about 3% of the adult population
    Only the junkies watch these three stations

    The rest of the population cant name the 3 branches of government
     
    #27     Aug 20, 2022
  8. It is tricky business in some dimensions though- especially in regard to elections.

    People may only watch TV in small snippets but also form most of their political judgements from television. Of course the internet and twitter have taken over much of that. But that is even more scary.

    That's why I form all of my political views from reading the forum here. That way I know that I am getting the truth.

    :cool:
     
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2022
    #28     Aug 20, 2022
  9. Mercor

    Mercor

    Learning from snippets is what the politicians want...They like the public to learn from headlines...then they can fill the narrative with speech.....there is no depth of subject in this format..good for the politicians

    Interesting article about longform podcasts that are dangerous to a politicians....the scrutiny of a long interviews can tear apart points of view

    Wow, Politicians Are Really Bad at Podcasting
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/08/19/boring-podcasts-00052659
     
    #29     Aug 20, 2022
  10. Yep. Even professional tv types cannot pull it off that easily. Refer to Chris Wallace and Chris Cuomo for more on this. True, Cuomo has just started his podcast gig, but he will not be rocking any boats with his ratings.
     
    #30     Aug 20, 2022