CNN POLL: 69% of Americans say Bush is A LIAR and O'Neill is telling the truth!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Nolan-Vinny-Sam, Jan 13, 2004.

  1. Pretty funny.

    My point, as elementary as it was, slipped by your unusually sharp faculties: only an idiot would fashion your particular response to my teasing.
     
    #11     Jan 13, 2004
  2. First of all, as much as I hate seeing our great Country run into the ground by Carl Rove with BIG GOVERNMENT and BIG DEFICITS, and AMNESTY TO ILLEGALS and his idea of Guns, Butter, and Tax Cuts ( kind of sounds like LBJ, eh? ), I have to fault former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill for his book "promotion" the other night on "60 Minutes".

    From Reuters, O'Neill now says:

    He described the reaction to Suskind's book as a "red meat frenzy" and said people should read his comments in context, particularly about the Iraq (news - web sites) war.

    "People are trying to say that I said the president was planning war in Iraq early in the administration. Actually there was a continuation of work that had been going on in the Clinton administration with the notion that there needed to be a regime change in Iraq."

    I'm sorry Paul, but I guess you mislead the public and the rest of the "60 Minutes" staff when you failed to include the above statement in your interview by Leslie Stahl. Had you already indicated that the Bush Administration was simply continuing work already in progress from the Clinton Administration in regards to regime change in Iraq, you would have never gotten on "60 Minutes" to promote your book.

    I'm sorry Paul, but I thought you were merely a proud academic type. Now I view you as a proud academic type with no credibility

    :)
     
    #12     Jan 13, 2004
  3. Ha!:D :p
    The Awful Truth
    By PAUL KRUGMAN
    People are saying terrible things about George Bush. They say that his officials weren't sincere about pledges to balance the budget. They say that the planning for an invasion of Iraq began seven months before 9/11, that there was never any good evidence that Iraq was a threat and that the war actually undermined the fight against terrorism.
    But these irrational Bush haters are body-piercing, Hollywood-loving, left-wing freaks who should go back where they came from: the executive offices of Alcoa, and the halls of the Army War College.

    I was one of the few commentators who didn't celebrate Paul O'Neill's appointment as Treasury secretary. And I couldn't understand why, if Mr. O'Neill was the principled man his friends described, he didn't resign early from an administration that was clearly anything but honest.

    But now he's showing the courage I missed back then, by giving us an invaluable, scathing insider's picture of the Bush administration.

    Ron Suskind's new book "The Price of Loyalty" is based largely on interviews with and materials supplied by Mr. O'Neill. It portrays an administration in which political considerations — satisfying "the base" — trump policy analysis on every issue, from tax cuts to international trade policy and global warming. The money quote may be Dick Cheney's blithe declaration that "Reagan proved deficits don't matter." But there are many other revelations.

    One is that Mr. O'Neill and Alan Greenspan knew that it was a mistake to lock in huge tax cuts based on questionable projections of future surpluses. In May 2001 Mr. Greenspan gloomily told Mr. O'Neill that because the first Bush tax cut didn't include triggers — it went forward regardless of how the budget turned out — it was "irresponsible fiscal policy." This was a time when critics of the tax cut were ridiculed for saying exactly the same thing.

    Another is that Mr. Bush, who declared in the 2000 campaign that "the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum," knew that this wasn't true. He worried that eliminating taxes on dividends would benefit only "top-rate people," asking his advisers, "Didn't we already give them a break at the top?"

    Most startling of all, Donald Rumsfeld pushed the idea of regime change in Iraq as a way to transform the Middle East at a National Security Council meeting in February 2001.

    There's much more in Mr. Suskind's book. All of it will dismay those who still want to believe that our leaders are wise and good.

    The question is whether this book will open the eyes of those who think that anyone who criticizes the tax cuts is a wild-eyed leftist, and that anyone who says the administration hyped the threat from Iraq is a conspiracy theorist.

    The point is that the credentials of the critics just keep getting better. How can Howard Dean's assertion that the capture of Saddam hasn't made us safer be dismissed as bizarre, when a report published by the Army War College says that the war in Iraq was a "detour" that undermined the fight against terror? How can charges by Wesley Clark and others that the administration was looking for an excuse to invade Iraq be dismissed as paranoid in the light of Mr. O'Neill's revelations?

    So far administration officials have attacked Mr. O'Neill's character but haven't refuted any of his facts. They have, however, already opened an investigation into how a picture of a possibly classified document appeared during Mr. O'Neill's TV interview. This alacrity stands in sharp contrast with their evident lack of concern when a senior administration official, still unknown, blew the cover of a C.I.A. operative because her husband had revealed some politically inconvenient facts.

    Some will say that none of this matters because Saddam is in custody, and the economy is growing. Even in the short run, however, these successes may not be all they're cracked up to be. More Americans were killed and wounded in the four weeks after Saddam's capture than in the four weeks before. The drop in the unemployment rate since its peak last summer doesn't reflect a greater availability of jobs, but rather a decline in the share of the population that is even looking for work.

    More important, having a few months of good news doesn't excuse a consistent pattern of dishonest, irresponsible leadership. And that pattern keeps getting harder to deny.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/13/opinion/13KRUG.html
     
    #13     Jan 13, 2004
  4. Is President Bush A Homo?

    Here's the shocking truth even conservative christians can't ignore any longer:

    http://www.bettybowers.com/isbushgay.html


    "I don't give a good goddamn if you want to be a cheerleader.
    Your father and I have decided you are going to play sports,
    like all the other little boys, mister sissy britches.
    Now get your hands off of your damned hips, you little pansy,
    and fetch me a scotch on the rocks!"

    -- Mrs. George H. W. (Barbara) Bush, 1954
    [​IMG]
     
    #14     Jan 13, 2004
  5. ummmm sorry folks!!!:D but this time the 69% win:D AND O'Neill is telling the truth! :D



    Bush admits he targeted Saddam from the start
    Tuesday, January 13, 2004
    WASHINGTON -- President Bush acknowledged for the first time yesterday that he was mapping preparations to topple Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein as soon as he took office.

    Bush's comments came in response to former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill's contention in a new book that the chief executive was gunning for Saddam nine months before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and two years before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.
    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/156352_bushsummit13.html
    :D:D:D

    And that brings up the next question: If iraq was the price since day one, how does the US go from a peaceful giant, to an invading one?:confused:
    well....look no further.... because 9/11 "provided a hell of an excuse":(
    too much of a coincidence??? connect them dots.
    I keep on saying, the ones responsible for 9/11 may be much closer that we are led to believe......:eek:
     
    #15     Jan 14, 2004
  6. ges

    ges

    :D
     
    #16     Jan 16, 2004
  7. poodle wagging the tail? or is it all the way around? :confused:
    what a crock!!!:( :(


    Blair to Bush 'Taliban first, Iraq second'

    Tony Blair had to persuade George Bush to tackle the Taliban before attacking Iraq in the weeks after September 11, the former British Ambassador to America said today.

    The United States President came under pressure from hawks within his administration to topple Saddam Hussein in the first crisis meeting at Camp David after the 2001 terror strikes in New York and Washington.

    But Sir Christopher Meyer said that when the Prime Minister met Mr Bush in the Oval Office a few days later he urged him to hit al Qaida and Afghanistan's Taliban regime first.

    "Tony Blair's view was, 'whatever you're going to do about Iraq, you should concentrate on the job at hand and the job at hand was get al Qaida, give the Taliban an ultimatum'."

    http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100...fm?objectid=12807231&method=full&siteid=50082

    shheeeeshhh:eek:
     
    #17     Jan 20, 2004