CNBC gurus. How bad are they?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Free Thinker, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. Classic morning - Bob Dahl, Bob Barbera, Jim Paulson - all on at the same time. For the love of god, can we get at least one person who isn't pumping stocks 24/7.

    Bob Dahl, who represents the largest long-only asset managers on the planet (and whose firm is more or less a well-paid arm of the gov't), essentially has a permanent segment on Squawk Box. CNBC has become state-run TV.
     
    #21     Feb 25, 2010
  2. Would Kudlow be considered a guru or the model cartoonists use to draw buzzards?
     
    #22     Feb 25, 2010
  3. Lethn

    Lethn

    That is the most typical marketing scam I have seen corporations use ever. When they use tactics like that they're trying to make their own made up or useless information seem more important. It's like when advertisers use the whole "Experts say blah blah blah" tactic, same thing.

    I'm amazed they can get away with that sort of thing actually because at least in the U.K it's the kind of thing they'd be all over but it's clearly stealthy enough to work even here.
     
    #23     Feb 25, 2010
  4. the gurus i profile are fund managers they have on air that have a record i can check.
     
    #24     Feb 25, 2010
  5. i may as well profile cramer. i dont have any recent number for cramer. i have numbers for 2008:
    "The YTD Return figures reflect changes since the first trading day of the current year. The Total Average Return figures reflect changes since 1/1/2002.
    Current Value $2,321,953.00
    Total Average Return -14.57%
    2008 YTD Return -38.97% "

    since we know cramer has recently been advertising that he did 31% in 2009 we can calculate that he is still negitive for 2 years and as of year end 2008 was negitive about 14% since 2002. i conclude that you would have been better off putting your money in a shoebox than listening to cramer.
     
    #26     Feb 26, 2010
  6. I enjoyed the beginning of his shows. The remainder, not so much.
     
    #27     Feb 26, 2010
  7. cnbc guru profile for today:
    oakmark fund oakmx.
    Performance
    Trailing returns
    1 day +0.08%

    1 week
    -0.59%
    4 week +2.97%

    3 month +1.92%

    YTD
    -0.76%
    1 year +76.93%

    3 years*
    -2.22%
    5 years* +2.03%

    this is Bill Nygren. media darling. so how good is he? his one year return is outstanding but only because it was so horrible in 2008. if you invested money with him for the last five years you underperformed bonds and cash.
    http://www.google.com/finance?q=oakmx
     
    #28     Mar 1, 2010
  8. today we have mike holland on cnbc. this guy is on tv all the time and always bullish. so how good is he:

    http://www.thehollandfund.com/performance.html
    Average Annual Return* as of December 31, 2009
    Quarter-end (6/30-9/30) 1 Year 3 Year 5 Year 10 Year Since Inception (10/95) Expense Ratio (1/28/09)
    4.39** 17.76 -0.30 2.40 1.08 5.16 1.63***


    over a ten year period you have averaged a little over 1%. less than a risk free bank cd.



    Michael Holland is the Chairman of Holland & Company, a private investment firm he founded in 1995 in New York City. He is also the President and Founder of the Holland Balanced Fund. He began his career at J.P. Morgan in 1968 where he spent twelve years managing both equity and fixed income assets for major institutional clients as well as wealthy individuals. He served as Chief Executive Officer of First Boston Asset Management in the early 1980's and later served as Chairman of Salomon Brothers Asset Management. He has been Chairman of a number of mutual funds.
     
    #29     Mar 2, 2010
  9. zdreg

    zdreg

    please explain how u manage to maintain focus simultaneously on both trading and the movie.
     
    #30     Mar 2, 2010