CNBC: Calpers no longer lending to shorts on GS MS

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by W4rl0ck, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. ASav

    ASav

    No doubt they should do that if they feel it will benefit them. They should not however, go on TV pounding the table about "prederatory short selling" when they do not have evidence of it. That is rumor mongering to the long side and is illegal I believe.
     
    #11     Sep 18, 2008
  2. W4rl0ck

    W4rl0ck

    The Heat IS ON

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    #12     Sep 18, 2008
  3. W4rl0ck

    W4rl0ck

    Tell me can you feel it?


    :D

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    #13     Sep 18, 2008
  4. poyayan

    poyayan

    Well, prederatory short selling is true to some people but not true to other people.

    Right now, people who write credit default swap (Think MS and GS ) will need to put up additional capital if their stock fall to certain level or their credit rating get downgrade.

    After Paulson's bail out of AIG, the prefer share, bond market, straight up borrowing is closed for MS and GS.

    That leaves a straight selling of their asset open only. Hence, the rumor of MS and citic bank.

    So, if you trigger these clauses in CDS, MS and GS will need to deplete their cash. If someone start rumors about them losing their cash, their clients will want their cash back too.

    IE. That's how a perfectly ok investment back goes BK.

    Anyway, check out this link and decide for yourself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDd51v7prtI
     
    #14     Sep 18, 2008
  5. W4rl0ck

    W4rl0ck

    Man this is fun taking money from the HFs. ;D
     
    #15     Sep 18, 2008
  6. is it me or just today that i find a tremendous amt of stocks hard to locate....not just financials
     
    #16     Sep 18, 2008
  7. W4rl0ck

    W4rl0ck

    Wow, hedgies, that was fun.

    Let's do it again tomorrow. :D


    The HEAT is still on.

    Can YOU feel it?
     
    #17     Sep 18, 2008
  8. So, the question I have is why would a perfectly sound and rational company create instruments that are pretty much ticking time bombs if the company's stock price falls below a certain point?

    Jesus F#$@ing Christ man: DID ANYONE LEARN ANYTHING FROM THE FALL OF ENRON???
     
    #18     Sep 18, 2008
  9. They are not ticking time bombs unless you come into a financial environment that is under the greatest stress since the Great Depression.

    :)
     
    #19     Sep 18, 2008