Yes... tell us when the chart shows it hitting 75% unvaccinated in the hospital. In the meantime look up Base Rate Fallacy and educate yourself.
Protest organizers of the Freedom Convoy plan to move next to Toronto most likely because they aren't accomplishing things (negotiations) the wanted by expressions their dislike of mandates to the Prime Minister. I'll say it again, the truckers and protestors are very lucky they did not do a Freedom Convoy in Vancouver, Montréal, or Toronto. The people of those cities would have already confronted the Freedom Convoy and moved them out. Well...Toronto has stated they are not Ottawa and that they plan to stop the Freedom Convoy to stop it from staying to become an "occupation" as it is now in Ottawa. More importantly, Toronto plans to protect its inner-core of the city from the Freedom Convoy because that's the location of their major key hospitals and critical business infrastructure. Here in Québec...citizens are vowing to give them a good ass-kicking if a Freedom Convoy attempts to disrupt their key infrastructure (hospitals and major businesses) considering these two cities have more stringent laws (fire safety laws) about the number of trucks in the inner core city than Ottawa. By the way, Canada's Conservative Party has a new "interim" women leader until the elections for a new leader. Prime Minister Trudeau is questioning the Conservative Party MPs supporting stance for the Freedom Convoy in comparison to their hard stance against the Indigenous Canadians that were protesting and occupying cities in which the Conservative Party demanded that the Indigenous Canadians be arrested and jailed... I knew that hypocrisy would come up about the Conservative party that is giving their support behind the Freedom Convoy. wrbtrader
The Base Rate Fallacy is a well-understood issue among those that understand the statistics of infectious disease. Those that do not understand are known ( like @Van_der_Voort_4 ) to try to manipulate the disease data. Although explained again in laymen's terms: The simpler, false analysis is what Raywat Deonandan, a University of Ottawa epidemiologist, called the “base-rate fallacy” in a recent blog post. It also underlines how the raw epidemiological facts of the pandemic have become a weapon of sorts in the vaccine wars. The unvaccinated are now a much smaller pool of people, a similar absolute number of them in hospital still means that a far higher percentage are getting seriously ill. And then there is the age factor. The risk of serious COVID disease is greater in older people, who are also more likely to be vaccinated. So when the even-smaller number of unvaccinated elderly fill up the ICUs at the same rate as the more-numerous fully immunized, it indicates they are much more apt to be made badly sick by the virus. In Ontario, for instance, unvaccinated people over 60 were 15 times more likely over the last 30 days to end up in the ICU with COVID than the fully vaccinated, according to Public Health Ontario figures... Dr. David Jacobs, a radiologist at Toronto’s Humber River Regional Hospital, said most of the people at his centre who wind up on a breathing machine – a last-ditch treatment that can leave long-term side-effects even for patients who survive it – are unvaccinated. The vaccinated are more likely to just need high-flow oxygen, a relatively non-invasive therapy that usually sees patients go home sooner, said Jacobs, who routinely scans COVID patients. “From the imaging point of view, the holy-smokes pneumonias are in the unvaccinated population,” said the Ontario Association of Radiologists president. “The more mild pneumonias are in vaccinated patients…. People tend to recover faster from it and it does less damage to their lungs.” ---------- The above issue with the Base Rate Fallacy was the same issue in Israel and other countries with a high vaccination rate of their population. Yet, it's a common theme of just saying "more vaccinated are hospitalized than not vaccinated" that's used by anti-vaxxers/protesters since the early 1900s. You can better understand this in the below charts that dives into the Ontario charts more easily into the data in comparison to the charts posted by @Van_der_Voort_4 about Covid Hospitalization in Ontario. This is the reason why Public Health Agencies in countries around the world continue (accurately) state this has become a Pandemic for those Not Vaccinated because those fully vaccinated are less likely to be severely ill from Covid in comparison to those not vaccinated. Simply, if the fully vaccinated has a breakthrough Covid infection...the illness is less severe than those that are not vaccinated. For example, if you have 100 fully vaccinated patients that are ill with Covid and returning back home in less than a week but you have 10 not vaccinated Covid patients on a ventilator / near death / dead that come from a much smaller pool of individuals in the same community... You don't need to understand that vaccines are working very well to prevent severe Covid illness and that this remains a Pandemic for those Not Vaccinated. The above reasons are why governments, disability insurance companies, costs to have healthcare insurance, work employment, and many others have now begun transitioning without those not vaccinated or removing the not vaccinated because they are now becoming too costly... Crazy sad in my opinion. Another way to look at this...Truckers and Protesters in the Freedom Convoy are gladly using charts like those posted by @Van_der_Voort_4 but will ignore the charts posted by me that reveal the real-world truth about Covid Vaccines and the impact the not vaccinated are having on our healthcare system and economy in this Pandemic. wrbtrader
I would fully agree on base rate fallacy if vaccines were effective in all cases,but they are not. In some time in the future from another booster they will cause “over clock” of the immune system and PERMANENTLY damage to the sheeples’ immune system. If vaccines were effective there would be less cases of the vaccinated sick again-simple logic. And base rate fallacy is just where proponents of vaccines are trying to hide the problem.If they looked at ratio of each age group and general population which is vaccinated and not data proves there is not large difference in ratio numbers! Data is from UK Professional investors understand this and its very much seen in value.Any product which people want does not come with such a steep decline in price.Something its known to them that they sold Spikevax shares.
What complete nonsense you shovel. False nonscientific claims about permanently damaging immune systems. Charts pushed by the Mercola website regarding the U.K. -- and as a bonus nonsense from Ron Johnson. You are a walking example of a fertilizer spreader.
@gwb-trading Senator Johnson poses integrity,which is in short supply. I don't have a job to pump anything lets agree to disagree. Also anyone who wants to take the vaccine i advise him to do that,just don't impose this on everyone.
Senator Johnson having integrity - Laughable. Let's take a look at what the local media in his state has to say and some of his many failed fact checks. FACT CHECK: Ron Johnson's 'COVID-19: A Second Opinion' panel https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/...cle_fce1e2cc-974d-5693-8e58-d90d7c967bac.html Sen. Johnson holds another forum for vaccine skeptics; Wisconsin doctors, hospitals reject claims https://www.wkow.com/coronavirus/se...cle_e8c85956-7d79-11ec-82fd-abdc49311ff6.html Claim wrong that COVID vaccines are killing athletes on the playing field PolitiFact | Athletes are not dropping dead on the field after getting vaccines, according to sports doctors. U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson. R-Wis., is once again making waves with his false claims about COVID-19. https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...es-are-killing-athletes-on-the-playing-field/ A Look Back at a Year’s Worth of Lies From Ron Johnson https://upnorthnewswi.com/2021/12/22/a-look-back-at-a-years-worth-of-lies-from-ron-johnson/