CME -7% circuit breaker didn't work ?

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by TickSeeker, Mar 19, 2020.

  1. This was exactly how I calculated my own charts and they matched with the Price Limits page in CME.
     
    #11     Mar 19, 2020
  2. I am using CQG and was following the markets in real time when this happened. Also there is no missing timestamps in the data...
     
    #12     Mar 19, 2020
  3. Can you show that time in a screenshot, approx noon US Central Time? (It's off to the left of the screenshots you posted.) IB shows the halt on NQ (TOS omits the 15 minutes). And then NQ does NOT halt when it reaches it's own 7% limit because it's limit was changed to 13% after that first halt (per the rules I linked to).

     
    #13     Mar 19, 2020
  4. Sure. Here we can see they were in the halt mode because of -5% hit in overnight period, but after open we didn't hit -7% until noon US CT where it still traded lower:

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    #14     Mar 19, 2020
  5. comagnum

    comagnum

    Buying right at the limit downs as you suggest, has been very punishing to those trapped in these LD halts that have resulted in large gap downs.

    It would be about the dumbest thing you can do is to go long a tick away from a limit down, your likely to get trapped in halt that gaps down big.

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    #15     Mar 19, 2020
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I saw the same thing via two different data providers and my broker. Others in a chat room saw it too...we were wondering why the "limit down" didn't kick in @ -7 %. Instead, it continue dropping almost another 10 points in Emini ES futures before trading stopped.

    wrbtrader
     
    #16     Mar 19, 2020
  7. Thank you very much for the information. I really appreciate.

    I'll go and ask my broker what they know.
     
    #17     Mar 19, 2020
  8. Earn2Trade-Ryan

    Earn2Trade-Ryan Sponsor

    You are correct here. I spoke to the CME directly about this instance on NQ. NYSE triggered rule 80b. This happened before NQ hit 7%. Once it resumed, 13% became the new CME limit.
     
    #18     Mar 19, 2020
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  9. southall

    southall

    No one is suggesting anyone buy every limit down. You have to know how to pick them.
     
    #19     Mar 19, 2020
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  10. Thank you for the information.

    Do you know what was the time when NYSE did 80b and how long was it ?

    EDIT:
    "The market will re-open today at the following time: 13:11:17 ET"
    https://www.nyse.com/trader-update/history#110000230482
     
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    #20     Mar 19, 2020