well, someone had to start this thread.... cloning is all over the news. this pisses me off: http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&oi=n...u=/ap/20021228/ap_on_he_me/cloning_world_reax these churches should shut the hell up (actually, they're free to voice their opinion, but they shouldn't be considered the defining opinion). religion is nothing but a hindrance to science...and the pope is damn fool. he thinks he's going to heaven when he dies. that's funny! he's going nowhere. if the bible is true, why would god let his biggest supporter turn into an old, frail, dying, bumbling, moron? it's because the whole thing is a total farce. anyway, i'm not really against cloning. it doesn't matter anyway because no matter what rules are passed, they won't stop science..so i'm not the least bit worried. i usually like fox news, but they're really annoying me on the cloning issue. brenda butner is usually ok, too, but she seemed so pig headed when she interviewed the guy who helped start cloneaid. she was all upset that embryos are thrown away, yet when it was pointed out that mothers can legally abort 3 month old babies for any reason, she didn't want to get into that. yeah, you don't want to get into that because it's a great point. abortion is a tough issue, but i would say it's ok if done VERY soon after conception... i'm talking like within a week. with exceptions made in the case of rape, or to save the life of the mother, etc. now i know life may very well begin at conception, but get real....we humans don't care too much about microscopic things and that's a fact. if you looked at a just conceived embryo under a microscope, you probably couldn't tell the difference between that and an amoeba. i say this and i'm nice to animals and i very rarely kill bugs if i can help it. i also don't eat meat. these same people that cry over microscopic embryos don't mind a cow being killed so they can eat it... or stepping on an ant in their house....or how about washing your hands? you're killing microscopic things right there. your own body kills things. death is part of life. i'm not saying a human is the same as an ant, but really, why are we more important than any other living thing just because we're more evolved? and yes, we evolved..that's a fact. all you people that think we're better than everything is probably because of the bible and the beliefs you were raised by. the bible makes it seem like everything is here FOR US. what a joke. just like the sun revolves around the earth, right? we're so important..everything is made just for us. that couldn't be farther from the truth. everything existed and we FIT to the planet. we evolved TO IT. anyway, i'm done blabbering, for now..i'm 100% for genetic engineering. in the future, we will have sex only for enjoyment. people WILL be conceived the way their parents want them. if you want your kid to have blue eyes, you'll have it. that is the way things are going to be and i know it. for the record, i didn't fully get into all my opinions on this matter.. also, i may sound like a liberal, but i'm not. i'm actually conservative, but not on social issues. i'm also not saying there shouldn't be limitations to cloning; there should be...i'm just saying it shouldn't be outlawed.