Clinton Emails show Soros gives her marching orders

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. Piptaker

    Piptaker

    Yes Popper was a good Philosopher by all accounts. He advocated experimentation by the state on empirical grounds using methodology of the physical sciences in the social sciences.

    Soros is advocating for more political control of markets,economic re- regulation, new market rules and a new political economy.The new rules have to be either the result of some form of experimentation,calculation or the persuading of politicians to enact theories, models and personnel preferences . Since value is subjective, we cannot quantify or measure it unless we use totalitarianism to determine what people should want under any point in time or future consequence. So value being subjective makes for a self organizing market which encourages innovation and leads to more freedom. State control and rules in markets leads totalitarianism which also brings in the moral aspect that soros doesn't consider.
    Soros advocates for a free market which is logically impossible considering his other statements.
     
    #141     Sep 9, 2016
  2. piezoe

    piezoe

    You would have to ask Soros, but as you must know, he is as strong an opponent of totalitarianism as anyone alive today. He clearly does not think completely unregulated markets are good. But there is so much nuance in his ideas that it is extremely easy to get them wrong, and in fact misunderstand what he advocates -- something so many do.
     
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    #142     Sep 11, 2016
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  3. Piptaker

    Piptaker



    That's because his ideas are in unresolvable conflicts ,he might say he wants a free market and he is a strong opponent of totalitarianism but he states here he wants to bring politics back into economics who are also by nature corrupt.
     
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    #143     Sep 22, 2016
  4. jem

    jem

    soros is in favor of the world govt or body making rules for America...


    to·tal·i·tar·i·an
    tōˌtaləˈterēən/
    adjective
    1. 1.
      of or relating to a system of government that is centralized and dictatorial and requires complete subservience to the state.

    Soros is the spokes model for the neo totalitarianism.
     
    #144     Sep 22, 2016
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  5. Piptaker

    Piptaker

    soros is also bringing his preference of a progressive society. Intentions are irrelevant as once governments engage in dissimilar interests of the people then governments must engage in oppression.
     
    #145     Sep 22, 2016
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  6. For a smart guy, you are incredibly naïve at times. Of course Soros' groups will makes reasonable sounding arguments about "private" censorship, etc. It is a problem. We all know that twitter and facebook are about as fair to conservatives as the IRS is.

    But Soros' solution is to have some international body regulating it. That body would be composed of people from enlightened countries like Canada, France, Germany etc, where one can be criminally prosecuted for criticizing islam or a host of other vorbotten topics. Is that really what we want? Not me.

    I judge soros not by his self-serving comments but by where he puts his money. He supports some of the absolutely worst groups in existence, from BLM to moveon.org, etc, etc
     
    #146     Sep 22, 2016
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  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    The clip you've posted is too sketchy to give an approximate notion of what Soros believes. Much more important then his personal beliefs for traders and investors, however, are his contributions to our understanding of markets and the failings of classical economics.

    This clip below, IMO, is far, far better for anyone with a sincere interest in trying to understand Soros. It demands close attention however.
     
    #147     Sep 22, 2016
  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    Also this last of his lectures at the Central European University will be of great interest to many here.
     
    #148     Sep 22, 2016
  9. fhl

    fhl

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    #149     Sep 22, 2016
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  10. Tom B

    Tom B

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    “I admit that I have always harbored an exaggerated view of my self-importance—to put it bluntly, I fancied myself as some kind of god” or “I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise I might end up in the loony bin.”
    György Schwartz (George Soros)
     
    #150     Sep 23, 2016