Climate Expert von Storch: Why Is Global Warming Stagnating?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JamesL, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. jem

    jem

    you are so full of shit.

    that article just quoted an agw nutter scientist who was telling the truth.

    when they run the models our current lack of warming only shows up in under 2 % of the scenarios.

    Thats outside of 2 standard deviations.

    That is a failure in just about everyone with a brain's book.
    Even agw nutter scientists are close to throwing them out.



    read the article and stop lying your ass off.






     
    #11     Jun 26, 2013
  2. jem

    jem

    SPIEGEL: Just since the turn of the millennium, humanity has emitted another 400 billion metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, yet temperatures haven’t risen in nearly 15 years. What can explain this?

    Storch: So far, no one has been able to provide a compelling answer to why climate change seems to be taking a break. We’re facing a puzzle. Recent CO2 emissions have actually risen even more steeply than we feared. As a result, according to most climate models, we should have seen temperatures rise by around 0.25 degrees Celsius (0.45 degrees Fahrenheit) over the past 10 years. That hasn’t happened. In fact, the increase over the last 15 years was just 0.06 degrees Celsius (0.11 degrees Fahrenheit) — a value very close to zero. This is a serious scientific problem that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) will have to confront when it presents its next Assessment Report late next year.

    SPIEGEL: Do the computer models with which physicists simulate the future climate ever show the sort of long standstill in temperature change that we’re observing right now?

    Storch: Yes, but only extremely rarely. At my institute, we analyzed how often such a 15-year stagnation in global warming occurred in the simulations. The answer was: in under 2 percent of all the times we ran the simulation. In other words, over 98 percent of forecasts show CO2 emissions as high as we have had in recent years leading to more of a temperature increase.

    SPIEGEL: How long will it still be possible to reconcile such a pause in global warming with established climate forecasts?

    Storch: If things continue as they have been, in five years, at the latest, we will need to acknowledge that something is fundamentally wrong with our climate models. A 20-year pause in global warming does not occur in a single modeled scenario. But even today, we are finding it very difficult to reconcile actual temperature trends with our expectations.

    SPIEGEL: What could be wrong with the models?

    Storch: There are two conceivable explanations — and neither is very pleasant for us. The first possibility is that less global warming is occurring than expected because greenhouse gases, especially CO2, have less of an effect than we have assumed. This wouldn’t mean that there is no man-made greenhouse effect, but simply that our effect on climate events is not as great as we have believed. The other possibility is that, in our simulations, we have underestimated how much the climate fluctuates owing to natural causes.
     
    #12     Jun 26, 2013
  3. pspr

    pspr


    A lie on it's face that is recognized as untrue by ALL reputable climate scientists.

    Why don't you repeat your 97% consensus lie, too. We all know that the study only produced a 33% consensus. The other 67% either didn't agree that there was AGW or didn't believe it was happening.

    Those are the facts, jack.
     
    #13     Jun 26, 2013
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    After the last stall, did anyone ask "why is global warming surging"?
     
    #14     Jun 26, 2013
  5. jem

    jem

    you mean after the previous scare about global cooling in the 70s.

    The answer is yes politicians and weather "scientist" charlatans who could make money off the politicians.

    in reality the tiny temperature change can not be distinguished from normal weather cycles... but they found a corrupt way to zoom in the charts and find a trend.


     
    #15     Jun 26, 2013
  6. pspr

    pspr

    How many times do you have to be shown the correlation to solar activity and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation? You sure are a dumbass, Rectum.
     
    #16     Jun 26, 2013
  7. wjk

    wjk

    #17     Jun 26, 2013