Climate alarmists: Fools to the left of me, jokers to the right

Discussion in 'Politics' started by traderob, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. piezoe

    piezoe

    It is used now to 'correct' all of the land based thermometers readings that figure prominently in GISS temperature measurement of the Earths surface. They are looking for tenths of a degree change against an average estimate of the urban island effect of around 10 deg. If you think this might be fraught with systematic error, you might be pretty smart.

    Roy spencer, who is retired now I believe, was in charge of the U,S, satellite, remote temperature sensing. He says, of the land based thermometer sites, GISS uses only a very few that have not had their environments altered significantly over the last thirty years. He says, rather than assume those sites with no significant alteration were the most reliable, GISS did the opposite, and adjusted the most reliable readings to correspond with the least reliable. I don't know why they would do that. But I have far more faith in the remote sensing, that has its own set of problems. The satellite shows little mean change globally, but It doesn't agree with the land based, thermometer, GISS estimates of change. No good error studies exist. That should be a top priority. The nominal temperature is not important, only the change in mean temperature is important. So a difference in the satellite values from the Earth based values doesn't matter. But there is a difference between the two sets in amount of change detected. That is important!

    There has never been any question that a large urban island effect exists. It is typically around ten degrees F.
     
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    #81     Dec 2, 2019
  2. traderob

    traderob

    Dozens die in Bangladesh cold snap
    • REUTERS
    • AN HOUR AGO DECEMBER 29, 2019
    At least 50 people have died in Bangladesh as cold weather continues to sweep across the country, officials say
     
    #82     Dec 29, 2019
  3. What did it it drop below 90 degrees?
     
    #83     Dec 29, 2019
  4. traderob

    traderob

    #84     Dec 29, 2019
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  6. traderob

    traderob

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  7. elderado

    elderado

  8. elderado

    elderado

     
    #88     Jul 18, 2021
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Cold weather in December in the northern hemisphere? You say whaaa? What does this 2019 article have to do w/anything?
     
    #89     Jul 18, 2021
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    not this shit again...

     
    #90     Jul 19, 2021