CL Traders - Should we worry about this?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Drawdown Addict, Jan 6, 2025.

  1. That is coming from the tabloid press. Governments had to shut down states because that is what you are supposed to do in a pandemic. Covid is airborne and lethal. The only way to protect people is by isolating them from the virus, as masks didn't do anything. The virus would have become way nastier if they didn't shut down states.

    Play the game Plague Inc. and you will see how easy it is to kill the entire world with a virus.
     
    #11     Jan 8, 2025
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  2. kbs

    kbs

    In Burundi in Africa no one, or under 1% got vacinated. Around 30 dead in 4 years, if the number is true. There was a lot of open advents/ elections party/ Miss Burundi 2020/2024 etc. indoor advent without masks.

    Alot of Amish people are also not vacinated, witout alot of dead.

    Kenya in Africa partly closed/masked people/ Tanzanai open for travle beach paty etc.

    Hard to explain if looking at data from around the world
     
    #12     Jan 8, 2025
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  3. wildchild

    wildchild

    Incorrect.

    Check out my thread on the way Sweden handled things. DeSantis had very limited shut downs and his state was fine. It was all a ply to cause pain before the election and blame it on Trump.

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...den-stands-apart.342513/page-354#post-6067084
     
    #13     Jan 8, 2025
  4. wildchild

    wildchild

    Excellent post.
     
    #14     Jan 8, 2025
  5. I know the way the US handled COVID has become a political topic. But it isn't. The reason why different countries handled the issue differently is because of many factors. And one is population numbers.

    In the case of Sweden, they don't have the same exposure to external people coming into the country like the US. So they can afford to keep everything open as it was before the outbreak.

    The same happens with African countries. Not many people migrate there. They have the luxury of handling things the way they want, simply because they don't have the problem.

    If you have a strong stream of people crossing the border. Either in or out, I am not saying this is an issue about immigration, you have to stop it.

    In a pandemic you have to stop the flow of people and keep them in a place under quarantine. Because you can't control the ones that are infected.

    So countries like the US and China must block every flow of people. Simply because they are too many to control.

    I am from Spain and the government didn't shut down anything initially and probably didn't have to, but for good measure they followed what bigger countries did, just to stop that flow of people.

    We blocked any immigration coming from the US and China first. People started screaming that is racist and poorly handled and we didn't have to do that. Families got stuck in airports, holidays got canceled, busineses stopped relation with those two countries and everything fell part. You have to do it, you have to block everyone coming from the US to the country, because the US is the biggest hub of flow. It is the most dangerous country in a pandemic.

    It isn't that complicated, it is not a political issue.

    I stop here, I won't argue more about this. Have fun with trading guys.
     
    #15     Jan 9, 2025
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  6. vz135

    vz135

    Have you memorized our National Anthem yet? Or are you moving to Greenland?
     
    #16     Jan 9, 2025
  7. ironchef

    ironchef

    And in China, they only had 60,000 deaths from COVID, less than flu, just like in Burundi, those were official Government statistics.

    However, China did have complete locked down so both methods worked well, you just have to pick either or, no in-between. :finger:
     
    #17     Jan 9, 2025
  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    LOL where did you get that number from?
     
    #18     Jan 9, 2025
  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    As for Burundi, it is one of the poorest country on earth (87% of population living on less than $2/day) as subsistence farmers - meaning they are outdoors a lot and not near others not from their immediate area. Or IOW not in an office, movie theatre, airliner, restaurant. All the places the modern world advises, correctly, to avoid during the spread. They avoided all that by being dirt poor living in Burundi duh. Guess that is what some here should do next pandemic. Move to a dirt poor country so they don't get their feelings butthurt being asked to keep their distance or cover their mouth if they are sneezing and hacking around others. Or just continue doing like Herman Cain (Mr 999) did back then, attending many, many tRump rallies.

    + + +

    Earlier this month, Cain appeared to support the decision not to require masks for Trump’s July 4 celebration event at Mount Rushmore.

    “Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump. PEOPLE ARE FED UP!” Cain’s Twitter account posted in a tweet that appears to have since been removed.

    Then had a change of heart hmmmm just a little too late:-

    “If people take it seriously, social distancing, sanitizing, hand washing, and masks, then we’re going to be fine trying to do both at the same time — open the economy and then employ safety guidelines,” Cain said in one video. His website, however, also pushed the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine despite several high-quality studies that have found the drug alone or in combination with others showed no benefit for Covid-19 patients.

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    Herman Cain, a onetime Republican presidential candidate and former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, has died from coronavirus, according to an obituary sent from his verified Twitter account and Newsmax, where he was launching a television show.

    RIP Hermie
     
    #19     Jan 9, 2025
  10. kbs

    kbs

    Thank you for your response. There are a few factully incorrect statments in your post, and in your more generel understanding. You seems to be very emotional and personly.

    1. You claims that my fillings get *BUTTHURT* due to lockdowns, masks, and that I am the type that *SNEEZ* up in peoples face. NOT CORRECT come again.

    2. Then you claim that I should go to Burundi in next pandemic. NOT CORRECT. They closed their border. Do your homework, you seems to be a nice.

    3. Then you claims that the *MODERN WORLD* got the lockdowns etc. right.

    The modern world had many driffent and selfcontradicting rules. SO NOT CORRECT.

    Get a free brothel vist for a VAX. But you can not vist your relatives in a oldcarehome etc. Or what about threats about putting 40 percent of unvacinated in camps if they did not paid fines in a EU contry.

    Maybe it make seens OK to you. Not to talk about all the law breaks done by goverments.

    4. Most goverment data are also WHO data. But Burundi kick WHO out, and did not mass vacinate, and is therefore interesting. However only about 10% of the population lives in more population dense places.

    5. But Burundi was mentioned in context, with Tanznia, Keyna and the Amish people in the USA. *After a man in the tread claimed that govermments had to close /lockdown, because he had lean in a computer game, that it is easy to kill all the people on the planet with a virus*.

    In Tanznia lives over 50.000.000 people. And I think in 2020 no one vacinated and 610.446 visted, 2021 around a million and in 2023 1.800.000. In 2020 the covid turisme was booming like in Sweeden.

    6. Tanzania was late to vax and as of 2023 50 percent has got at least 1 short. Around 900 dead. Kenya around 5000 dead, but lockdown. According to John Hopeskins Covid Institute 2023.

    7. You mentioned a CEO of a pizza company, what statiscal significans does that have. In a contry USA with sevral hunderes millions.

    I was in China in 2003 under the SARS were I meet a english teacher that worked in Wuhan. He contracted several of the big internacional medias, but no one liked to write about what went on. The oposite in 2020.

    SARS 2003

    CASES DEATHS FATALITY
    CHAINA 5.327 349 6.6%
    HONG KONG 1.755 299 17.0
    TAIWAN 346 73 21.0
    USA 27 0 0
    SOUTH AFRICA 1 1 100
    SWITERZLAND 1 0 0

    I lived in a small hotel were withe people got separrated to one floor, and we all got SARS.
    There was 3 people from Switzerland, that went back home infected.

    My personal expeirance is the SARS in 2003 was for me worse that the 2019-2020 covid that I got. That in its self is not a prove of anything. But the goverments and the medias respones in 2020 was a 180 degres, that a fact. No mass test or lockdown in 2003. Some of the hardliners in the international health community, claimed 2003 response was to soft.

    WHO has a historie of curuption and got Sweden to vax against the svine flue, alot of young people got bad side-efects. Denmark did not vax and nothing happened.

    You seems as a very nice guy and I am glad you not turn everthing upside down. Then Mr Hermann Cain last nick name would be 666 JW insted of Mr 999

    Happy new year
     
    #20     Jan 11, 2025