CL Redux

Discussion in 'Journals' started by schizo, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. I am done today, I said to myself many times I must out at when the trend is ended. looks it will continuse its slide or maybe just another start.
     
    #7421     May 19, 2010
  2. Picaso

    Picaso

    I think that entry had to do with your *guts*, not your god, but hey, whatever works for you ;)
     
    #7422     May 19, 2010
  3. Hmm anyone trading this right now ?

    btw trader nice short from the highs ;)
     
    #7423     May 19, 2010
  4. Picaso

    Picaso

    Wow, sorry that you got stopped out by a couple of ticks before the break, but still, really nice trade
     
    #7424     May 19, 2010
  5. I went short at 72.52, still in , I am looking to break to 71.40
     
    #7425     May 19, 2010
  6. Closed my position at 71.51. Done for the day......I defently have to put a stupid sign in front of my wall say, follow your system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I have made this month 16 trades and from those 16, with my system I have money in 12 out of 13 times, doing stupid things including yesterday when I almost wipe my whole account, I have lost 2 out of 3 times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Someone knows of a good book about Psychology of trading, I need to use my brain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
     
    #7426     May 19, 2010
  7. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    From trading live for less than 2 months (but sim for several months before that), here are my insights so far:

    CL trades highly technical except around news releases. So here are the high probability setups I've found:

    Breakouts: Watch for a strong break out of consolidation (8:10am bar today), or a first push in a potentially new trend (same bar because of the very strong support established around 71.40-71.50). Price will pull back from the first push and then should find buyers/sellers at a higher pivot low or lower pivot high. Price resumes in the direction of the first push. Look to buy or sell at the pivot high/low. The ensuing breakout is usually good for 20-40 ticks immediately. If the breakout fails, get out quickly and re-evaluate. Failed breakouts often mean a trend reversal or a resumption of the previous trend.

    Trend exhaustion counter-trend: After 3-4 pushes in a trend, an attempt to break out further often fails. You can counter-trend a strong 3rd or 4th push (9:00am bar today) with a stop at the pivot high or low. Look to take early profits on at least part of the position in case the trend resumes, because you're top/bottom picking at that point. Should be good for 20-40 ticks.

    Trend reversal signal: after a 3rd or 4th push in a trend, price puts in a lower high or higher low. Short the lower high, buy the higher low, stop at the pivot high/low. This is the highest probability trade for me, along with the second and third leg of the new trend.

    You'll notice that previous bar levels are usually tested to the exact tick as price moves up or down, so if you're a scalper you can skim 5-15 ticks of those little levels. I personally never do that because it's a counter-trend play and the risk:reward is minimal, as you can see from the quick move that wipe you out with slippage.

    I use the Keltner bands to see overshoots more clearly. I often target an overshoot price level on trades that break down the 20-bar EMA. Very reliable zone for pivots.
     
    #7427     May 19, 2010
  8. cstfx

    cstfx

    connectivity issues only to see I was stopped out.
     
    #7428     May 19, 2010
  9. cstfx

    cstfx

    What works for me is trading the minis as crude is still kinda new for me. Works pretty good if you are not trying to scalp a cent here or a cent there.
     
    #7429     May 19, 2010
  10. Picaso

    Picaso

    This is what I have on my desk

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    #7430     May 19, 2010