CL Redux

Discussion in 'Journals' started by schizo, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. \m/ Nice and straightforward.
     
    #20161     Apr 15, 2011
  2. BCE

    BCE

    Trying to remember what NoDoji said. Wasn't it something like, "Following the trend is the way to ruin."? Or maybe it was "Who has the balls to buck the trend?". Or "Any idiot can follow the trend and make easy money. Why not attempt more difficult trades?".
     
    #20162     Apr 15, 2011
  3. I was thinking the same thing. Longs have been cake today. Another Bearish TL setting up on CL, which means I'll be watching for a break of that TL to buy.
     
    #20163     Apr 15, 2011
  4. I think it was "truck the fend." :D
     
    #20164     Apr 15, 2011
  5. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Don, LMAO! Seriously! I had just closed my 3rd scratch in a row, long, short, long in that Blah formation, really felt that one of 2 measured move targets was in play, 109.42 and 109.72, but had an appt to go to. The next long I would've tried was the no-heat clean breakout!

    Can't say I didn't give ample notice of my departure!

    I've a question about the "market if touched" order, because I've been trying a lot of anticipatory limit trades and often price hits my level but I don't get filled (damned bots!)

    How does that type of order work, is it if the bid or ask is touched or does someone actually have to transact a trade at that price, then your order becomes a market order?
     
    #20165     Apr 15, 2011
  6. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    No it's "If you step in front of the truck, fend for yourself!"

    :D

    That 5-min trend line was golden today!
     
    #20166     Apr 15, 2011
  7. Same here--it just got its fifth touch on the one minute.
     
    #20167     Apr 15, 2011
  8. One thing I've noticed as well is that sometimes these TL's can shift a bit. For me the breakout hasn't really developed yet, and the TL is starting to flatten. I will adjust the TL as we go at times. I guess that's the nuance part of it, but if you stare at it long enough you get a feel. Looks like it's trying to make a move now...

    Not a lot of gas yet... I scaled one out to lower risk and my stop is at 55's.
     
    #20168     Apr 15, 2011
  9. Picaso

    Picaso

    Nod, a market-if-touched buy order works exactly as a buy stop with the difference that you can place the order <i>below</i> the market. Thus, the ask/bid has no relevance, the bid could be 10 ticks below your price, but if it doesn't trade, the market order won't be triggered.

    Keep in mind that in practice it's basically the equivalent of placing a limit order a couple of ticks higher (for buys), particularly in "thin/elongated (with large ranges in ticks)" markets. So if your current levels are being touched to the tick, it will make a difference, but you might as well add a tick or two [to your original limit order].

    Edit: also, a limit-if-touched is the same as a stop-limit.
     
    #20169     Apr 15, 2011
  10. Leaning towards a scratch... Stop at 69's. If 90's trades I think we're in business.
     
    #20170     Apr 15, 2011