CL Redux

Discussion in 'Journals' started by schizo, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. The time article assessment of what is coming out of Libya next 1-2 weeks seems supporting this crystal ball said trading range :D


     
    #16081     Feb 23, 2011
  2. Good quote

    “The way I see it is simple: if the market goes up without you, you are wrong; if you go down with the market, you are wrong. End of story. I have no convictions. I only have a plan: deploy, reweight and defend the money. My market opinion is the same as J.P. Morgan’s, “It will fluctuate.” My job is to make money from the fluctuations.” – Teresa Lo
     
    #16082     Feb 23, 2011
  3. McBet

    McBet

    More like the Cushing urban myth. They want you believe that so that you rolled your financial longs at their exorbitant 40% annualized markups. Those with the permission to play in the last hour of trading in the CL March contract made 3 points (40% annualized) on the "Cushing syndrome" myth meeting reality, when the March-April calendar spread shrunk from 4 to 1 point in a matter of minutes, as they scooped up the front month at 91 and sold it an hour later 3 points higher, with their next-month hedge barely moving...

    Interestingly, the manipulators, who must have been prepared to take delivery in the front month contract, were not inclined to get their hands dirty for the miserly 3 point (40% p.a.) of arbitrage profit (gross), even if waiting for that delivery would have allowed them to cover their tracks completely (from the electronic markets participants they bluffed so perfectly) with the enormous $4 contanto carried past the last trading moment, perpetuating the Cushing myth a bit longer...

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    #16083     Feb 23, 2011
  4. McBet

    McBet

    Notice also in that chart from Feb 22 that it was possible to leg out of the front month and leg in into the next month at the same price of 94!

    So if you were prepared to take some directional risk for half an hour, you (The Market Maker, Commercial, Bank Arbitrage Desk, etc) would be able to effectively reduce your roll yield to zero, offloading your March inventory at the same price for which you bought the new April contract half an hour earlier. And what was that Cushing syndrome again? I can't see any for the Last Hour traders... Zero roll yield... a holy grail in case of CL. Or... a day like any other in Brent (currently even in backwardation... again) See you there!
     
    #16084     Feb 23, 2011
  5. The problems at Cushing are real ... not a myth. But, like any other storage/processing problem it facilitates manipulation. Classic manipulative thinking calls for identifying a real bottleneck and then coming up with strategies that exploit that reality.


     
    #16085     Feb 23, 2011
  6. EON Kid

    EON Kid

    Good post Mcbet, mornin all

    Crude numbers tomorrow at 11am

    Existing Home Sales, today 10:00 AM ET
     
    #16086     Feb 23, 2011
  7. McBet

    McBet

    Why then is NYMEX watching all that manipulation happening before their very eyes (with Saudi's defecting long ago to a fairly priced benchmark) and why don't they simply make all WTI-based contracts (QM alone is not enough, because it is hedged with CL) immune to this sort of last minute manipulation, by eliminating the Last Hour Monopoly? It can be achieved so simply... by making CL into a cash-settled contract like Brent is (http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3101029#post3101029 )
     
    #16087     Feb 23, 2011
  8. Picaso

    Picaso

  9. Anyone think we sell off today? 96.89 HOD?
     
    #16089     Feb 23, 2011
  10. EON Kid

    EON Kid

    L 9635 .1s


    :23 stp BE trgt YHOD
     
    #16090     Feb 23, 2011