CL Redux

Discussion in 'Journals' started by schizo, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. schizo

    schizo

    Beware: this can get nasty in quick succession. We might even see carnage on the street tomorrow. Roll out the red carpet!
     
    #15301     Feb 14, 2011
  2. limit sell 85.0

     
    #15302     Feb 14, 2011
  3. BCE

    BCE

  4. holy cow march/april spread $4.50 never heard of just for 1 month
     
    #15304     Feb 14, 2011
  5. BCE

    BCE

    Yeah that is something. Been a while since we've been down at these levels.
     
    #15305     Feb 14, 2011
  6. out 84.85

     
    #15306     Feb 14, 2011
  7. BCE

    BCE

    Just about a 2 point range today from up near R3 to down near S3.
     
    #15307     Feb 14, 2011
  8. so what it takes to sell April oil now and buy March month and take phisical delivery of march month and store it in a ship and deliver it at a month later.

    seriously at $4500 per contract , if you have a 10k barrels ship rented it and after all the cost of say $1 for this one month it is a profit of
    $3500 x 10k = $35 millions

    seriously what is the math here.

    why Goldman , Morgan stanly and all other big hedge funds can not do this ??


     
    #15308     Feb 14, 2011
  9. schizo

    schizo

    This is largely due to rollover contango exacerbated by Egyptian unrest. Producers are resorting to storing oil in tankers to offset any potential problems.
     
    #15309     Feb 14, 2011
  10. BCE

    BCE

    Actually I had heard that GS did buy a number of oil tankers which really made me shake my head. I think they used our bailout money to buy tankers. Sheeeesh! Life on Wall Street.

    (BTW, I'm not saying this as a joke to be funny. I really did hear this.)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil-storage_trade

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/oil-market-outlook-when-contango-trade-unwinds
     
    #15310     Feb 14, 2011