CL Redux

Discussion in 'Journals' started by schizo, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. I came within 2 ticks of being stopped out but I think I'm gonna exit 1 here while still can at .90. ES looks like its gonna go up and dollar looks like its gonna do down. Now just short 1 CL at .80
     
    #11091     Sep 29, 2010
  2. Reset

    Reset

    Quote from ammo:

    cover almost half 77.55 - 1.11 offer em back out at 77.90...put these back out 77.51 AVG 76.44

    add 78.03,avg 77.07 add 78.10..avg 77.32

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    Hi ammo,

    I am new here. I understand most of your calls but could not follow this one. Can I request you to explain this please?

    Thanks.
     
    #11092     Sep 29, 2010
  3. ammo

    ammo

    i put my ,90 offer back out at .55 ,foolishly in hindsight
     
    #11093     Sep 29, 2010
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    #11094     Sep 29, 2010
  5. ammo

    ammo

    cover a 1/4 at .74(-.42)
     
    #11095     Sep 29, 2010
  6. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    If you have 4 losses in a row from fading the market or revenge trading or jumping the gun without waiting for a proper setup, then I agree that it's a good idea to step aside and review rules/setups.

    But if you have 4 losses in a row from taking valid setups and getting chopped by less than ideal price follow through, I recommend staying focused and continuing to take valid setups, because no matter how choppy CL might be at a given point in time, it will eventually break out with conviction one way or another and you can recoup a lot of small losses with one or two good trades.
     
    #11096     Sep 29, 2010
  7. Picaso

    Picaso

    Good point, Nod, I think it's advisable to differentiate between losses (4 in a row is not a big deal and should be expected for many good systems with a 30-40% win rate) and non-forced errors (i.e. you knew you shouldn't be doing X, but you do it anyway).
     
    #11097     Sep 29, 2010
  8. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    It was a big step for me to get over back to back losses and ignore them basically as long as I was doing the right thing. I had a couple opening trades in AMZN some time ago for -$300 and took the 3rd signal without hesitation, capturing a huge move. That was a key day for me and I believe after that day I removed the P/L from my windows. I now have to switch to another window to see my P/L. If I'm doing the right thing I really don't care about losses because the winners will take care of them as long as I don't let the previous losses influence the winning trade. It's tempting when you're down to take profits at a level that gets you back to even, but the best way to end up net profitable is to treat every trade exactly as your rules dictate.
     
    #11098     Sep 29, 2010
  9. Wise words ND. I agree with taking any P/L window off the screen as well. Instead of focusing on what the trade is doing or where you should be focusing people usually focus on the $$ which is usually not good for most traders.
     
    #11099     Sep 29, 2010
  10. Sounds like you just one "One Good Trade" to ND :p Add short 77.90. Both will be stopped out at 78.26 and profits will be taken at 77.25. I see the DX going to at least 79.45 and that shall be my catalyst. One might ask so why don't you just buy the DX? well... I did :) There is nothing better than making $$ while you're sleeping. And if ya lose money it doesn't hurt nearly as bad as watching that that stop triggered notice pop up.
     
    #11100     Sep 29, 2010