Cisco is a terrible value, let me explain. #1 They have poor products in the Application content services side, F5 is killing them at that market. #2 They have poor security products, They acquired lots of companies only to let the products die on the vine from neglect. #3 They are paying too much money to buy companies such as flip video etc.. #4 Wireless same thing, Meru is the superior company #5 They print too many shares to enrich insiders then use the "Stock Buyback" Shell game, but its a scam. I could go on but there is lots of problems inside of Cisco and I give Cisco a 12 month target of 16 a share.