christians. no way we will vote for a morman.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. jem

    jem

    bravo... great ruling by the appellate court.

    why should the aclu and their friends get to censor americans speech?

    especially with a misapplication of the bill or rights... which was designed to stop the fed govt from choosing a national religion.... and protecting citizens rights to worship (or not) as they chose.
     
    #11     Jun 7, 2011
  2. Max E.

    Max E.

    How much would you be willing to throw down, and on what kind of odds, that Romney wins the republican nomination?

    He aint my choice by anymeans, but the only one who has a chance against Romney at this point, is hunstman in my opinion...

    Romney is currently in a dead heat with Obama, and he has 5-10 times the money any of the other candidates have. The only republican who could fund raise like him, and win the primary is huntsman in my opinion.

    Palin wont run, thats a guarantee. She may be stupid but she isnt stupid enough to blow off her multi million dollar media blitzes for a run at the presidency she knows she cant win. Bachmann may run but cant win.

    Then there is going to be an army of people once Romney wins who just want Obama out, because the economy is going to get worse between now and 2012.

    Bachmann and Palin arent going to turn their supporters against Romney after he wins the primary..... It will be all conservative hands on deck at that point, and romney will decimate Obama.



     
    #12     Jun 7, 2011
  3. the problem with these kinds of things is christians are hypocrites. they want religious freedom only as long as its their brand of religion.
    if the student had offered up a jewish or islamic prayer the christians would be the first ones complaining.
     
    #13     Jun 7, 2011
  4. jem

    jem

    unfortunately to a degree you are correct. When I see Christians attempting to stifle others free speech I cringe. Govt needs to shrink and stay away in most circumstances.
     
    #14     Jun 8, 2011
  5. jem

    jem

    I should state... stifle free speech through use of govt.

    I am a big believer in the competition in the marketplace of ideas. So Christian may have their view point, atheists theirs and the rest of the religions theirs... let the best ideas win.
     
    #15     Jun 8, 2011
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    No Matter What

    By Dr. Walter Williams

    Can President Obama be defeated in 2012? No. He can't. I am going on record as saying that President Barack Obama will win a second term.

    The media won't tell you this because a good election campaign means hundreds of millions (or in Obama's case billions) of dollars to them in advertising.

    But the truth is, there simply are no conditions under which Barack Obama can be defeated in 2012.
    The quality of the Republican candidate doesn't matter. Obama gets reelected. Nine percent unemployment? No problem. Obama will win. Gas prices moving toward five dollars a gallon? He still wins. The economy soars or goes into the gutter. Obama wins. War in the Middle East ? He wins a second term.

    America's role as the leading Superpower disappears? Hurrah for Barack Obama! The U.S. government rushes toward bankruptcy, the dollar continues to sink on world markets and the price of daily goods and services soars due to inflation fueled by Obama's extraordinary deficit spending? Obama wins handily.

    You are crazy Williams. Don't you understand how volatile politics can be when overall economic, government, and world conditions are declining? Sure I do.

    And that's why I know Obama will win. The American people are notoriously ignorant of economics. And economics is the key to why Obama should be defeated.

    Even when Obama's policies lead the nation to final ruin, the majority of the American people are going to believe the bait-and-switch tactics Obama and his supporters in the media will use to explain why it isn't his fault. After all, things were much worse than understood when he took office.

    Obama's reelection is really a very, very simple math problem. Consider the following:

    1) Blacks will vote for Obama blindly. Period. Doesn't matter what he does. It's a race thing. He's one of us,

    2) College educated women will vote for Obama. Though they will be offended by this, they swoon at his oratory. It's really not more complex than that,

    3) Liberals will vote for Obama. He is their great hope,

    4) Democrats will vote for Obama. He is the leader of their party and his coat tails will carry them to victory nationwide,

    5) Hispanics will vote for Obama. He is the path to citizenship for those who are illegal and Hispanic leaders recognize the political clout they carry in the Democratic Party,

    6) Union members will vote overwhelmingly for Obama. He is their key to money and power in business, state and local politics,

    7) Big Business will support Obama. They already have. He has almost $1 Billion dollars in his reelection purse gained largely from his connections with Big Business and is gaining more everyday. Big Business loves Obama because he gives them access to taxpayer money so long as they support his social and political agenda,

    8) The media love him. They may attack the people who work for him, but they love him. After all, to not love him would be racist,

    9) Most other minorities and special interest groups will vote for him. Oddly, the overwhelming majority of Jews and Muslims will support him because they won't vote Republican. American Indians will support him. Obviously homosexuals tend to vote Democratic. And lastly,

    10) Approximately half of independents will vote for Obama. And he doesn't need anywhere near that number because he has all of the groups previously mentioned. The President will win an overwhelming victory in 2012.

    -- Dr. Walter Williams
     
    #16     Jun 9, 2011
  7. Ricter

    Ricter

    Tidy little win/win Williams is setting up for himself here.
     
    #17     Jun 9, 2011
  8. In the way of religious beliefs it is not about winning. If you're raised Christian chances are you're going to be Christian for life. Same for any other beliefs. I'm happy you can practice yours just let me practice mine.
     
    #18     Jun 9, 2011
  9. jem

    jem

    If people want to have a pro abortion rally - great... that is what america is about freed of speech. If anti abortion people want to hold a rally great..

    I realize it may not have been clear but, my comment was not competition for religious members. I was talking about competition between ideas. I believe the courts have done a pretty good job of keeping the govt from restraining speech, I hope for the it to stay that way.
     
    #19     Jun 10, 2011