Christianity - For the Record

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by jem, Apr 9, 2015.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    I've talked about this very subject with my wife last week, using a waffle iron my mother was given as a wedding present eons ago.

    They used to make appliances that would last a couple through out their marriage..... Guess they still do?
     
    #61     Apr 16, 2015
  2. stu

    stu

    You use a waffle iron your mother was given to talk to your wife?
    Damn, as well as lasting a long time, those appliances were sure way ahead of their time.
     
    #62     Apr 16, 2015
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  3. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Good one :D
     
    #63     Apr 16, 2015
  4. jem

    jem

    perhaps it that is true... if you have faith in life evolving by random chance...you might see it as two bald guys fighting over a comb.
    But... at least we have learned the Christian did not start the fight.



     
    #64     Apr 16, 2015
  5. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Nor did the Muslim.
     
    #65     Apr 16, 2015
  6. jem

    jem

    That is a separate issue. This will be what the fifth time we have asked you for your thesis and support of that point.

    If you think Muhammed and his band attacking Jews and Mecca and then everywhere else nearby was actually part of some other long standing imperialist effort... go for it. I suggest you find a new thread.

    I simply started this thread because I anticipated I could find historical evidence showing that the Christian Crusades were not the start of the conflict.
     
    #66     Apr 16, 2015
  7. Gringo

    Gringo

    People are confusing Islam as being some united force against Christianity and vice versa. There were kingdoms and empires on both sides that distorted matters. Christian kings were fighting amongst themselves and Islamic kings amongst themselves. If it were Christians against Muslims then both parties wouldn't be having bloody fights amongst themselves.

    The script has always been the same. The ruler, to keep support while people are dying wants to blame someone else for the troubles of the people. Turks attacked Safavid Empire and annexed quite a few Muslim ruled areas.

    Tell me this: Is it easier to convince someone to fight on because the other has a philosophy of free trade or when the other is hell bent on destroying the religion forever?

    Gringo
     
    #67     Apr 16, 2015
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  8. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    People who have trouble with the written word could do a lot worse than watch Lawrence of Arabia. It's better than nothing, and far better than the nonsense posted in this thread.
     
    #68     Apr 16, 2015
  9. jem

    jem

    Seen it. Enjoyed it immensely. But that is not a thesis.

    However it does serve as a model for many leftists...
    naive, reasonably intelligent (who think of themselves as brilliant), ego driven individuals put to work to achieve a goal they believe in such as a big unified govt serving the people... not realizing the more worldly politicians and power drivers actually intend to achieve the opposite.
     
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    #69     Apr 16, 2015
  10. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    So you have no idea what that movie is about. The tribesmen wanting a "big, unified government serving the people"? Really?

    In any case, the "worldly politicians and power drivers" were mostly Christian. Surely you're not suggesting that they intended to take advantage of those poor Muslims . . .
     
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    #70     Apr 16, 2015