no you should research it yourself. there is no reason for you to remain brainwashed about a primitive superstition in the internet age. would a former preacher and bible scholar help you escape your mental bondage? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiUCN_e2dgY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trt1ZWR5PqQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3TP...D912F74D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=32 do you know how many past gods had the same attributes as jesus? why did the jesus is god myth pick up so many characteristics as past gods? Of course the answer is very clear if you open your mind to the truth. Christianity is a mismash of earlier religions that borrowed its myths from earlier gods. Here is a list of some earlier gods. Does anything sound familiar: Zoroaster/Zarathustra --Zoroaster was born of a virgin and âimmaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.â --He was baptized in a river. --In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom. --He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil. --He began his ministry at age 30. --Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and âholy wind.â --He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man. --He taught about heaven and hell, and revealed mysteries, including resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse. --He had a sacred cup or grail. --He was slain. --His religion had a eucharist. --He was the âWord made flesh.â Zoroasterâs followers expected a âsecond comingâ in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior, who is to come in 2341 CE and begin his ministry at age 30, ushering in a golden age. Mithra of Persia --Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25 in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts. --He was considered a great traveling teacher and master. --He had 12 companions or disciples. --Mithraâs followers were promised immortality. --He performed miracles. --As the âgreat bull of the Sun,â Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace. --He was buried in atomb and after three days rose again. --His resurrection was celebrated every year. --He was called âthe Good Shepherdâ and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion. --He was considered the âWay, the Truth and the Light,â and the âLogos,â [Word] âRedeemer,â âSaviorâ and âMessiah.â --His sacred day was Sunday, the âLordâs Day,â hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ. --Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter. --His religion had a eucharist or âLordâs Supper,â at which Mithra said, âHe who shall nto eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved.â --âHis annual sacrifice is the Passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement of pledge of moral and physical regeneration.â Virtually all of the elements of the Catholic ritual, from miter to wafer to altar to doxology, are directly taken from earlier Pagan mystery religions. Attis of Phrygia --Attis was born on December 25 of the Virgin Nana. --He was considered the savior who was slain for the salvation of mankind. --His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers --His priests were âeunuchs for the kingdom of heaven.â --He was both the Divine Son and the Father. --On âBlack Friday,â he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth. Dionysus/Bacchus Dionysus or Bacchus is thought of as being Greek, but he is a remake of the Egyptian god Osiris, whose cult extended throughout a large part of the ancient world for thousands of years. Dionysusâs religion was well-developed in Thrace, northeast of Greece, and Phrygia, which became Galatia, where Attis also later reigned. Although a Dionysus is best remembered for the rowdy celebrations in his name, which was Latinized as Bacchus, he had many other functions and contributed several aspects to the Jesus character: --Dionysus was born of a virgin on December 25 and, as the Holy Child, was placed in a manger. --He was a traveling teacher who performed miracles. --He ârode in a triumphal procession on an a##.â --He was a sacred king killed and eaten in an eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification. --Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25. --He was the God of the Vine, and turned water into wine. --He was called âKing of Kingsâ and âGod of Gods.â --He was considered the âOnly Begotten Son,â Savior,â âRedeemer,â âSin Bearer,â Anointed One,â and the âAlpha and Omega.â --He was identified with the Ram or Lamb. --His sacrificial title of âDendritesâ or âYoung Man of the Treeâ intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified. Horus/Osiris of Egypt In the Egyptian myth, Horus and his once-and-future Father, Osiris, are frequently interchangeable, as in âI and my Father are one.â Concerning Osiris, Walker says: Of all savior-gods worshiped at the beginning of the Christian era, Osiris may have contributed more details to the evolving Christ figure than any other. Already very old in Egypt, Osiris was identified with nearly every other Egyptian god and was on the way to absorbing them all. He had well over 200 divine names. He was called the Lord of Lords, King of Kings, God of Gods. He was the Resurrection and the Life, the Good Shepherd, Eternity and Everlastingness, the god who âmade men and women to be born again.â Budge says, âFrom first to last, Osiris was to the Egyptians the god-man who suffered, an died, and rose again, and reigned eternally in heaven. They believed that they would inherit eternal life, just as he had done . . .â Osirisâs coming was announced by Three Wise Men: the three stars Mintaka, Anilam, and Alnitak in the belt of Orion, which point directly to Osirisâs star in the east, Sirius (Sothis), significator of his birth . . . Certainly Osiris was a prototypical Messiah, as well as a devoured Host. His flesh was eaten in the form of communion cakes of wheat, the âplant of Truth.â . . . The cult of Osiris contributed a number of ideas and phrases to the Bible. The 23rd Psalm copied an Egyptian text appealing to Osiris the Good Shepherd to lead the deceased to the âgreen pasturesâ and âstill watersâ of the nefer-nefer land, to restore the soul to the body, and to give protection in the valley of the shadow of death (the Tuat). The Lordâs Prayer was prefigured by an Egyptian hymn to Osiris-Amen beginning, âO Amen, O Amen, who are in heaven.â Amen was also invoked at the end of every prayer. As Col. James Chruchward naively exclaims, âThe teachings of Osiris and Jesus are wonderfully alike. Many passages are identically the same, word for word.â Osiris was also the god of the vine and a great travelling teacher who civilized the world. He was the ruler and judge of the dead. In his passion, Osiris was plotted against and killed by Set and âthe 72.â Like that of Jesus, Osirisâs resurrection served to provide hope to all that they may do likewise and become eternal. Osirisâs âsonâ or renewed incarnation, Horus, shares the following in common with Jesus: --Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Merion December 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men. --His earthly father was named âSebâ (âJosephâ). --He was of royal descent. --At at 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized having disappeared for 18 years. --Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by âAnup the Baptizerâ (âJohn the Baptistâ), who was decapitated. --He had 12 desciples, two of who were his âwitnessesâ and were named âAnupâ and âAanâ (the two âJohnsâ). --He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus (âEl-Osirisâ), from the dead. --Horus walked on water. --His personal epithet was âIusa,â the âever-becoming sonâ of âPtah,â the âFather.â He was thus called âHoly Child.â --He delivered a âSermon on the Mountâ and his followers recounted the âSayings of Iusa.â --Horus was transfigured on the Mount. --He was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected. --He was also the âWay, the Truth, the Light,â âMessiah,â âGodâs Anointed Son,â âthe âSon of Man,â the âGood Shepherd,â the âLamb of God,â the âWord made flesh,â the âWord of Truth,â etc. --He was âthe Fisherâ and was associated with the Fish (âIchthysâ), Lamb and Lion. --He came to fulfill the Law. --Horus was called âthe KRST,â or âAnointed One.â --Like Jesus, âHorus was supposed to reign one thousand years.â Furthermore, inscribed about 3,500 years ago [1500 years before Jesusâ alleged advent] on the walls of the Temple at Luxor were images of the Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth and Adoration of Horus, with Thoth announcing to the Virgin Isis that she will conceive Horus; with Kneph the âHoly Ghost,â impregnating the virgin; and with the infant being attended bh three kings, or magi, bearing gifts. In addition, in the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isisâthe original âMadonna and Child.â As Massey says: It was the Gnostic art that reproduced the Hathor-Meri and Horus of Egypt as the Virgin and child-Christ of Rome . . . You poor idiotai, said the Gnostics [to the early Christians], you have mistaken the mysteries of old for modern history, and accepted literally all that was only meant mystically.
i do believe education is winning out over superstition. once the deluded generation,like you, dies of the great delusion will slowly fade away just as it already hase in europe: http://www.newsweek.com/id/192583 The End of Christian America The percentage of self-identified Christians has fallen 10 points in the past two decades. How that statistic explains who we are nowâand what, as a nation, we are about to become. the number of Americans who claim no religious affiliation has nearly doubled since 1990, rising from 8 to 15 percent. Then came the point he could not get out of his mind: while the unaffiliated have historically been concentrated in the Pacific Northwest, the report said, "this pattern has now changed, and the Northeast emerged in 2008 as the new stronghold of the religiously unidentified." As Mohler saw it, the historic foundation of America's religious culture was cracking.
Not necessarily, but why not? You're already operating on blind faith as it is. In any event, enjoy your holiday.
A snide remark regarding one of God's creatures followed by "blessings?" I guess that's the love and understanding thing that Jesus taught.
Dogma can certainly be debated, as can historical claims; but teachings about how to live, and love, and treat your fellow human beings, are words that exist on there own. Either they ring true for you, or they don't. Whether or not it would be a good thing for the world if Jesus were forgotten, turns mostly on whether or not it would be a good thing if his teachings were forgotten. It would be a shame to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Atheists are all about form over substance. They don't appreciate the symbolism (which is what religion really is) because their attention is always turned inward. This blinds their minds to the obvious reality. It wasn't bus loads of Atheists or Russian mafia that went to NOLA to dig those fools out Katrina. It was Christians. When Christianity dies off the World will die too. John
these kinds of things should be taught. why however is it necessary to inject a mythical story about a mangod who was impregnated by majic and was killed then came alive again to teach higher ideals? A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death. -- Albert Einstein, "Religion and Science,"
You mean like the form of humanitarianism first over the substance of the pious, self-righteous self-centered, holier than thou symbols of Christian theists . Sounds reasonable.
are you saying there were no nonchristians helping? are you further saying that if science were to eventually come up with enough evidence falsifying a biblegod to convince even you that you would instantly become evil?