Chinook's EUR/USD (E/$)Mumblings

Discussion in 'Forex' started by chinook, Aug 16, 2004.

  1. Neal,
    Not that I'm going to hold a long position from here to 1.20, but I think 1.20 is a poor place to abandon a long term view of the Euro strengthening against the dollar. Remember that only three weeks ago (8/4) the Euro bounced off the 1.1970 area. There was a lot of buying interest below 1.20 and it didn't spend very much time down there. The Euro rising against the dollar has never been a Euro strength story but rather a dollar weakness story. It looks like the budget deficit and the current account deficit are going to continue to grow and that will mean more dollar weakness in the medium and longer term.
     
    #161     Aug 23, 2004
  2. Thanks for your comments. I agree with you. When I said 1.2000, I didn't mean that I was going to stop myself out exactly at or below 1.2000. I am just saying that if my opinion is correct, I believe that we should not revisit those lows again (as you state 1.1970). If we do, I really have to question my long-term view. In all likelihood, I would really abandon the trade below 1.19 in terms of actual outright liquidation of my positions. However, below 1.2000 would really scare me and get me to think long and hard about a change of view. Thanks for your comments. Neal.
     
    #162     Aug 23, 2004
  3. The irony is a lot of people (seem) to agree with the currency regime change, but they believe it's the other way around: The Euro on the cusp of taking over the USD. It may, but I can't see that happening; while the US has problems, so does Europe. The difference from where I sit is the American problems are known and acknowledged; on the other hand, the Euro-zone's future meltdown doesn't seem to be registering at all. I'm not sure this is the turning point; I'd like to see some strength in the US economy before going that far.

    I'm still not sure what to think of the equity markets. From what I see, the path of least resistance is down; I have a sneaking suspicion that the activity last week was nothing more than an over-sold bounce and short covering. Lately, I've been following the VIX and VXO and there's just not enough fear in this market; if anything, the perception still seems very positive.

    You may definitely be right about this being a bottom and money about to be poured into the equity markets, but I need to see a few things happen before I commit to long US equity positions. I'm basically going to sit things out until mid-September; hopefully, I'll have a better indication then. I wouldn't be surprised if the money that may come out of the Euro markets goes into the UK and Asian markets. Speaking of which, I think South East Asia is going to become an enormous powder keg just waiting to blow.

    With China booming and Japan's economy taking off..... things will be interesting.

    All in all, just my loosely slapped together opinion. I may very well be completely wrong... only time will tell.

    I was short EUR/USD from around 1.2300 last night. Of course, I allowed myself to sit and watch it and got scared out. You'd think by now I'd have at least SOME faith in my calls... lol.
     
    #163     Aug 23, 2004
  4. Neal,

    I can't comment on the long-term prediction for Eur/$ but as long as you're putting long Eur positions within your risk limits and be able to sleep fine then you're doing OK. Be careful, don't let butterflies start showing up in your stomach. Well you know, we can't predict madness of people :)

    Good luck,

    Chinook
     
    #164     Aug 23, 2004
  5. It was a roller coaster ride for me today. My overnight long got stopped out while I was asleep before the US open. After sleeping only for two hours, my mind got into an interesting zone and I started going after 7-8 pips at a time both long and short. This is something I don't usually do. But I did about 8-9 successful such trades one after another one. At that point, I couldn't believe what I did and the accumulated $$ profits within a short time frame. That was the THE SIGN (my surprise for the profits) to stop trading for the day. Then my mind got hazy. I had this strong belief that Eur/$ bottomed out and started going for the long side with wide stops. I gave back all the profits back and then ended up losing more than my overnight loss. On the bright side, I clearly remember the point where I told myself to stop and how I felt at that point. Anyway, it was a different kind of day for me and I paid my tuition for it. The week is still fresh.

    Happy Trading,

    Chinook
     
    #165     Aug 23, 2004
  6. TGM

    TGM

    SteveL91,

    Agree with you again, I believe America has many known problems. In Europe, there will be many surprises (esp. immigration/demographics --far right etc..). We all hear all the horrible fundamentals affecting America (I have heard about them my whole life). People are dead right based on these fundamentals to be long term short the dollar. However, it is impossible to be a trader in the "long term" sense. How many times have you been dead right and did not make any money? Or did not make enough dough given your insight? I would have to confess ---many times ---for myself.

    On the dollar, damn the river when it floods NOT BEFORE. I am short the Euro (and to the lesser extent Cable). I am offering Euros all the way back. My models tell me we should have one to two days sideways at the most and then a follow through lower. Of course, I could always be wrong. Can't tell till you bet.
     
    #166     Aug 23, 2004
  7. Until I get more experience, the equity to sustain the drawdowns and the confidence to know I can come back, I can't and won't trade my beliefs. For right now, I trade what I see even if it conflicts with my beliefs because they're two seperate things and generally on different time frames. While I have no idea of the magnitude of the move, I think short is the side to be positioned on.. at least for the time being.

    Short cable looks like a good position as well. The only thing I'm not sure of is whether or not the move is over-extended. I haven't seen any real signs of a reversal, and today's strength in the pound didn't seem to carry over in cable.
     
    #167     Aug 23, 2004
  8. At this stage, I'm betting for an overnight bounce. I'm long from 1.2140 --stop set at 1.2120 and target set at 1.2196.

    Chinook
     
    #168     Aug 23, 2004
  9. I'm also long (from 41). Why did you pick 1.2196 as your target (I haven't picked a target yet)?

    Cheers
     
    #169     Aug 23, 2004
  10. Hi Traderguy,

    The session low so far is about 1.2130, if we see a bounce from here 70-80 pips is likely.

    Chinook
     
    #170     Aug 23, 2004