Chinook's EUR/USD (E/$)Mumblings

Discussion in 'Forex' started by chinook, Aug 16, 2004.

  1. Learning How to Take a Loss

    Humans are risk averse. We don't like losses, and we'll do almost anything to avoid taking them. Losses are painful, and there's a strong need to seek out pleasure and avoid pain. It is easier to avoid admitting a loss, and traders tend to come up with many ways of denying one has a loss, such as holding on to a losing trade and hoping it will turn around, or keeping losses on paper to avoid acknowledging them. But in the end, you will trade more efficiently and profitably if you can take losses as quickly as possible, move on and make a new trade. For example, in his book, "The Disciplined Trader," Mark Douglas suggests that you close out losing trades immediately, the instant you perceive that a trade is a loser. The best way to do this is to have a clearly defined trading plan where you predefine where you will enter and exit a trade. Once you have a clearly defined plan, you can execute the trade without hesitation. There is nothing to consider, weigh, or judge and consequently nothing to tempt you to hesitate and be consumed with self-doubt. You'll be able to focus on monitoring the trade, and if you can follow your plan, you will be able to trade effortlessly.


    The best way to take a loss is to anticipate it. Don't be caught off guard. If you go into a trade expecting that it may be a loser, you won't be as bothered should the trade go against your expectations. If, on the other hand, you try to avoid considering the possibility, you'll become extremely frustrated when you are in the midst of a losing trade. It is much more useful to accept the fact that losses are the norm rather than the exception.
    It is also vital to define your potential losses before you enter any trade. Define your possible loss, or risk, in comparison to your possible reward, or profit. It is also vital that you don't take losing personally. Traders who put their self-esteem on the line with their money are especially vulnerable to strong, unpleasant emotions when they lose. But if you take a more carefree approach, and think, "It is not personal; it isn't a big deal in the end," then you will be able to accept a loss and take quick, decisive action.

    Taking a loss is a fact of trading. If you trade to make profits, you will face many more losing trades than winners. But just because you lose more than you win, doesn't mean that you won't trade profitably over the long run. The fact that you lose trades is not an issue. The issue is how you cope with losses. If you view them as nothing more than a minor setback, you'll get back up and make trade after trade in order to come out of it. But if you are stunned and disappointed, you'll actually give the losing trade more significance than is warranted. And in the end, you may end up losing money over the long run. So practice taking losses effortlessly. You'll trade more profitably in the long run.

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    #1651     Nov 8, 2004
  2. Thanks - you'll notice when I start making money again - I'll be a lot more talkative...

    Glad you're still mumbling - EliteTrader should start paying you per mumble.

    Nice Innerworth post.
     
    #1652     Nov 8, 2004
  3. AUD

    AUD

    This is a great thread I look at it all the time.

    Where do you guys think we are going over the next few days??

    is 1.3 in sight?

    I am down at the moment after buying near the record highs lol
    am thinking at the moment to just hang on

    Adam
     
    #1653     Nov 8, 2004
  4. Make sure that you risk small until you get back to the groove. Times before and after vacation have always been bad for me! I learned my lesson the hard way.
     
    #1654     Nov 8, 2004
  5. Yup - I learned the hard(expensive) way. One of those lessons that you pay way too much for - I will never forget it though.

    AUD - I would assume up and over 1.3 although everyone is thinking that at the moment - and you've heard what happens to sheep - they get slaughtered.... I'm pretty much staying sidelined (small trades only - yes Chinook:) with trade figures and FOMC looming on Wed - careful.
     
    #1655     Nov 8, 2004
  6. What is your time-frame? Did you violate your stops?

    I don't think that anyone can predict what this beast will do next.
     
    #1656     Nov 8, 2004
  7. AUD

    AUD

    My stops are around 2885 I am thinking of violating them... then going to bed.

    I read your post above after posting my last message.
    This is a big problem for me I seem to not mind going down by 40 pips but as soon as I see a small profit I take it.
    um I think it should be the other way round!

    I am only trading a mini account so I am not betting my worth on it. at the moment from my 3 months of trading I am $300 up but have learnt a lot

    Adam
     
    #1657     Nov 8, 2004
  8. Adam,

    Do you have a trading plan that you truely believe that it has an edge? If you don't then you need to come up with a plan that you really trust. If you do have such a plan, then you need to execute it without "thinking"...
     
    #1658     Nov 8, 2004
  9. Back from the twilight-zone again, but as always ... my spot FX demo account does absolutely fantastic, but I'm still here with no great system for my EuroFX trades.

    My target got hit, so I guess I will have to find something new to ponder about. It's almost too bad I didn't stay up 'till now. :D

    csaunders, I had the same feeling that I was not completely in shape when I came back from holidays, but now I'm cooking like never before - although it's been a lucky strike since around the US election.

    Got to do some tape-reading and more news reading to see what will happen - and if we'll take down 1.29 or not. The 1.2930-25 area was obviously not that strong on first test.
     
    #1659     Nov 8, 2004
  10. V-Viper

    V-Viper

    Read the post on the top of this page. I lost big hanging on Friday, dont make the same mistake!
     
    #1660     Nov 8, 2004