China’s economy: the risk of a second coronavirus wave

Discussion in 'Economics' started by lovethetrade, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. lovethetrade

    lovethetrade Guest

    On the same day that Chinese authorities began to relax a 77-day quarantine on Wuhan, the city that exported coronavirus across China and ultimately to every corner of the world, a small town on the country’s border with Russia was locked down for the second time in three months.

    On April 8, residents of Suifenhe in northeastern Heilongjiang province were ordered to stay at home, with only one member of each household allowed out every three days to buy food and other supplies. Train services to Harbin, the provincial capital, were suspended. Like Wuhan, Harbin is a major industrial city with a population of about 11m people.

    Most of the Chinese cities, towns and villages that were locked down at the peak of Wuhan’s epidemic in January and February were relatively unscathed by the first outbreak of coronavirus. At the time, Suifenhe was reported to have had no official cases.

    But now Suifenhe faces a real crisis, after Chinese nationals returning home from Russia triggered a much-feared “second wave” of infections. The city has more than 320 confirmed cases and almost 1,500 people in centralised quarantine facilities.

    https://www.ft.com/content/43163250-808a-11ea-82f6-150830b3b99a
     
  2. southall

    southall

    Thats how the CCP does it.
    Anyone with symtoms, you dont get to stay and self isolate at home,
    you get sent off to quarantine, they drag you out if they have to.
     
  3. Yep, the government can't and shouldn't trust the people on self isolating. Especially in a high population density country like China.
     
  4. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    And it'll keep coming back, this kinda madness would be acceptable if it was a 50% fatality rate, but it's a nothing burger for 99.9% ( 99.8% if american ) people.

    Got to keep doing this for ever ever ever!!!

    Spains numbers coming down, they'd of not fought it.

    Sweden says Herd with in the next 2 weeks then massive drop, lets see if there right.

    UK coming down, doubt from lockdowns we'd all had it before, just been household hoping recently.
     
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  6. 2400 people died at Pearl Harbor , and the United States nuked two Japanese cities , and the Japanese have been pretty nice since then , now we have 40k US citizens dead , because of the virus that came from China , with the blessing of CCP. Don't you think the US needs to retaliate?
     
  7. themickey

    themickey

    That was an interesting video, would make a good seperate thread.
    A lot of contraversial information there, very contraversial - I don't know what to make of it.
     
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  8. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    If the virus originated in the USA, and got spread to China do you think it would be fair for China to retaliate ( Nuke ? kill other civilians ? ) against the USA ??

    So not grow up, accept shit happens and move on!!
     
  9. iprph90

    iprph90

    Listened to first 15 minutes to give him the benefit of doubt. I concluded he has "aspirations" to put it euphemistically. Could also be funded by Breitbart.

    'A wise man can play the part of a clown, but a clown can't play the part of a wise man."

    "The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses."


    Malcolm X
     
  10. themickey

    themickey

    It's hard to know who to believe as there is so much bs pedalled, so did a little hunting on who 'Next News Network' were.....

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    A video by the Next News Network fed on debunked allegations against Bill Clinton. Photograph: YouTube
    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/02/how-youtubes-algorithm-distorts-truth

    With its flashy graphics and slick-haired anchor, the Next News Network has the appearances of a credible news channel. But behind the facade is a dubious operation that recycles stories harvested from far-right publications, fake news sites and Russian media outlets.

    The channel is run by anchor Gary Franchi, once a leading proponent of a conspiracy that claimed the US government was creating concentration camps for its citizens. It was the Next News Network that broadcast the fabricated claims about Bill Clinton raping a teenager, although Franchi insists he is not a fake news producer. (He tells me he prefers to see his channel as “commentating on conservative news and opinion”.)

    In the months leading up to the election, the Next News Network turned into a factory of anti-Clinton news and opinion, producing dozens of videos a day and reaching an audience comparable to that of MSNBC’s YouTube channel.

    Chaslot’s research indicated Franchi’s success could largely be credited to YouTube’s algorithms, which consistently amplified his videos to be played “up next”. YouTube had sharply dismissed Chaslot’s research.

    I contacted Franchi to see who was right. He sent me screen grabs of the private data given to people who upload YouTube videos, including a breakdown of how their audiences found their clips. The largest source of traffic to the Bill Clinton rape video, which was viewed 2.4m times in the month leading up to the election, was YouTube recommendations.

    The same was true of all but one of the videos Franchi sent me data for. A typical example was a Next News Network video entitled “WHOA! HILLARY THINKS CAMERA’S OFF… SENDS SHOCK MESSAGE TO TRUMP” in which Franchi, pointing to a tiny movement of Clinton’s lips during a TV debate, claims she says “fuck you” to her presidential rival. The data Franchi shared revealed in the month leading up to the election, 73% of the traffic to the video – amounting to 1.2m of its views – was due to YouTube recommendations. External traffic accounted for only 3% of the views.

    Franchi is a professional who makes a living from his channel, but many of the other creators of anti-Clinton videos I spoke to were amateur sleuths or part-time conspiracy theorists. Typically, they might receive a few hundred views on their videos, so they were shocked when their anti-Clinton videos started to receive millions of views, as if they were being pushed by an invisible force.
     
    #10     Apr 19, 2020