China semiconductor industry decapitated

Discussion in 'Economics' started by VicBee, Oct 15, 2022.

  1. destriero

    destriero

    You're holding dual citizenship (native Chinese/naturalized US) and you want to work in China and escape when it's convenient? To that I say, with all due respect;

    FUCK YOU, SWEETHEART.

    There is the door. Use it.
     
    #101     Oct 17, 2022
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  2. destriero

    destriero


    They can ship my ass back to Sweden. It's about IP theft/national security. Why should our tech subsidize an enemy? Are you OK with Russian nationals working in our defense industry? I suspect not.
     
    #102     Oct 17, 2022
  3. destriero

    destriero


    Fuck you, bye. Need help scheduling a flight?
     
    #103     Oct 17, 2022
  4. destriero

    destriero

    You traitor-fucks are fine with Trump as long as the relationship was transactional; steal our shit as long as it's limited to some tariffs which were porous AF.
     
    #104     Oct 17, 2022
  5. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    It's all US persons right? So even that H1B visa holder or PR who graduated w/a master's and doing an internship abroad is screwed basically. While I understand how "chips" are a nat sec. issue, I would not be against a Russian national working at intel/nvda/etc...
     
    #105     Oct 17, 2022
  6. Are we just witnessing the first steps of a Nazi-USA in the making?... :)

    Sieg Eil! Schnell! Schnell! :D

    SH-USA.jpg
     
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    #106     Oct 17, 2022
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  7. destriero

    destriero


    NVDA is a defense contractor? Obv is only impacts dual nationals/naturalized US citizens with two Passports.
     
    #107     Oct 17, 2022
  8. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I read it as "US persons", for tax purposes at least this covers all immigrants. I'm short on the details so read this as "most semis need to pull out as semis are now a "nat sec. issue"". If we had nat. def. specific chips being worked on, I don't know what they were doing in China to begin with. That's why I threw retail semi's on there because I don't understand why you conflated defense/semis (talking pre ban).

    All I'm saying is there's nerds in China and Russia who just want to work their "dream job" and going McCarthy on them and lobbing "treachery" for objecting having to uproot their lives isn't really fair. Not all of them are hackers or industrial spies. In any case, getting worked up over hypotheticals is pointless. Uncle Sam may have given them a cushy offer and they may have all been takers.

    It does raise an interesting question though. Will foreign nationals be barred from working on chips that were not a nat. sec. issue until now? Not that I don't see the logic....at some point, certain projects in rockets, nuclear, bio/chem were all public domain.

    Something to mull over:
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...ying-china-helps-make-major-discove-rcna44637
     
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    #108     Oct 17, 2022
  9. mervyn

    mervyn

    I do have problem with this order. You know this only apply to "the Chinese" right? Like the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882, obviously later follow by the encampment of the Japanese in WW2.

    AMD and Nvidia CEOs are all Chinese-Americans. While I don't want to guess what these two's political views, I am sure they are not happy.
     
    #109     Oct 17, 2022
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  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    The CCP have organ harvesting in concentration camps for violators of thoughtcrime. Don't get ahead of yourself.
     
    #110     Oct 17, 2022
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