China flees dollar

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by new$, Feb 10, 2010.

  1. Stupid statement of the week. Congrats, you win this week's award. Mak is right, if any of you pinheads (including the OP who posted "China flees dollar") bothered to read the article you've been yapping about you'd have noticed that China is dropping more risky dollar assets for USTs. This, of course, would be dollar neutral.
     
    #11     Feb 12, 2010
  2. Having said that, they have been diversifiying outside of the USD, but relative in size compared to their entire holdings ofcourse.

    China Becomes Oil ETF’s No. 4 Holder, Buys SPDR Gold

    China Investment Corp., the nation’s sovereign wealth fund, invested for the first time in the U.S. Oil Fund, an exchange-traded crude-futures fund, joining Morgan Stanley & Co. and Goldman Sachs Group among the top holders.

    China Investment became the fourth-largest holder in the Oil Fund by buying 2 million shares, equal to 3.48 percent of the outstanding units, with a value of $78.6 million, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission 13-F filing posted on Feb. 5. It also took a 1.45 million share stake, or 0.4 percent of the total, in the SPDR Gold Trust worth $155.6 million.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20603037&sid=aZtsKyX2S6Ls


    Wasnt it a saying these sovereign wealth funds always chase previous bull markets?

    Time will tell.
     
    #12     Feb 12, 2010
  3. jorgez

    jorgez

    Of course and if they convert a few Billion of Cali bonds for USTs it should all be a barrel of laughs.

    How could you lay the path of blame on the Chinese ... surely the bone should be pointed square at the Calis and their bank breaking lifestyle.
     
    #13     Feb 12, 2010
  4. dhpar

    dhpar

    what a nonsense - i would not be surprised that they do exactly the opposite especially if they have such a star among themselves.

    it is a crunch time. everybody is making big fun of US by now and even americans start to see it - at least as far as they continue to get fired and their tax liabilities "doubles" every year...

    some snippets from top of my head:

    * Yuan will not strengthen if only because chinese trade surplus is disappearing - not mentioning the employment/political impact in china.

    * EUR can become competitive with tricks like Greece. why do you think EMU will not explicitly help them? They love the weakening EUR. on top of that they are used to tax slavery anyway so no big changes for them recently.

    * commodity currencies will not strengthen as much as they should to bring balances in line largely because of worries of destroying manufacturing sector (e.g. Canada) or unwillingness to invest in infrastructure/consumption (e.g. Gulf states) china will likley push demand for commodities up worsening the trade balances.

    * US continues to support consumption (on drug-like cheap rates) instead of doing exactly the opposite to get their house in order. this again worsen the trade balance, fiscal balance etc.

    one day (soon) people will realize that this is not sustainable even in the short term. there must be a major redesign of the currency system.
    to start with the reserve currency needs to have a reserve ccy attributes - fiscal (budget), monetary (no carry) and external (trade balance + current account balance). it seems that flexible exchange rates based on fiat (and mercantilism of some countries) do not work - they are inherently unstable (by its own construction in fact).

    sorry for the ramble - buy real assets! (whatever it means):)
     
    #14     Feb 12, 2010
  5. brother , Could you please tell me where you get this data ? This data is very importent for me.

    Second , brother , Do you know how many and what are names of those ETF in USA which are about china mainland A shares index?

    Thanks so much !
     
    #15     Feb 23, 2010