I am calling BS on GM's claim. No way a battery can do that. "Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics" - Homer
Yes, absolutely insane! By the time a person pays the car off, plus one of those battery packs plus the finance charge, they would have close to 60K in a Chevy that would book out for around $14,500 depending on the miles.:eek: I sit here shaking my head in total disbelief that GM is this damn stupid to make a "car" like that. Then again, GM is NOW a union benefits, and healthcare organization that happens to build cars on the side, and is the epitome of moral hazard...
Look in your magic8ball and tell me who has been the #1 selling truck maker for about 35 years. Get back with me.
I don't know the exact point at which it could be determined that the battery has eroded enough to be covered under warranty. I don't work in service and don't handle the warranties. The simple answer is, nobody knows. That's life. GM has done their testing and is confident enough that they will work for an acceptable lifetime. This argument was used years ago with the Prius and they have held up fine. Again, if anybody is concerned with the battery technology, the simple answer is to not buy one. While you're at it, don't bother buying a laptop either, since that has the same type of battery as the Volt. By the way, at this point my guess is the battery pack costs more than $8k. The Volt is basically a fully loaded Cruze (same engine and chassis). That is priced at $26k while the Volt is around $43k. Although the Volt does have other things like regenerative braking and 5 years OnStar($1500 value). It seems in the last few posts I'm basically hearing a whole lot of "well I can't understand why anybody would buy this car, so I'm going to search and find a bunch of articles and determine that it's a crap car and GM is so stupid for making it." Who do you think is buying these? Do you think it's limited to celebrities trying to go green? If you think it's die hard GM loyalists that are buying these, you are wrong. In fact every single one of my Volt customers did not own a GM product before. I get that BMW question all the time. Who cares? Go to the ghetto someday, you'll see it littered with luxury cars. But drive a Volt around town and you'll get more than a few thumbs up. Besides reading a bunch of articles online by uninformed authors, let me ask you guys this - have any of you actually talked to anybody who has bought one or is considering one? Better yet, have any of you actually test driven one? The arguments being made here are the same ones that were made about the Prius, solar panels, computers, and iPhones. Weren't these all things that were claimed to be too expensive and would never work? Here we are later and average Joe can get any of these. The good news for you guys is that somebody else is paying the initial higher price until the price comes down and you guys finally come around to buying one. Remember, this type of vehicle can easily be adopted in full size sedans, sports cars, suv's, and pick up trucks.
brilliant fellas.. argue with a car salesman... GM will always be shit in the usa, after decades of making...shit. If you want people to respect the brand, move to china. The chinese love it over there, the buick symbol at least.
wat the fuk do u expect from goverment motors look how the fuck up everything they touch and dont even dont touch
Typical ET. Don't challenge any of my points, just call me a car salesman and be done with it. Anytime you want to have an intelligent conversation, just let me know. Although that seems harder and harder to find on ET.
What on earth are you talking about? Most of this discussion is either about the battery/warranty or the cost effectiveness of this car. Yes there is the gm=shit talk, but besides that people have very good points which you cant answer; which is fine, you answer what you dont know. So what points are you saying? Because I really want this car to work, but as a representative, you are doing a terrible job.