the real question is what is obama about to embark on or stop that Cheney and his oil cronies,in afgan,iraq,all of mid east, darfur, don't want stopped....quickly build an anti obama image leading up to it.... we barely heard a peep out of cheney in the last 8 years... he was always behind the curtains ..pulling puppet strings.. while someone behind the next curtain was pulling his
cool video on the dangers of socialism as brought to us by Obama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0 KT
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32004 Cheney Shows the Way by Patrick J. Buchanan Posted 05/26/2009 ET Updated 05/26/2009 ET Dick Cheney is giving the Republican Party a demonstration of how to fight a popular president. Stake out defensible high ground, do not surrender an inch, then go onto the attack. The ground on which Cheney has chosen to stand is the most defensible the Republicans have: homeland security. In seven-and-a-half years after 9-11, not one terrorist attack struck our country. And, unlike Obama's position, Cheney's is 100 percent reality based. He was there. He lived through this. He made the decisions to use the harsher techniques on the worst of the enemy who could yield the greatest intelligence to save American lives. "The interrogations were used on hardened terrorists after other efforts failed. They were legal, essential, justified, successful and the right thing to do." And they "prevented the violent deaths of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of innocent people." Having defended every decision he took, Cheney then counterattacked. He charged The New York Times with virtual treason in exposing the program to intercept calls from al-Qaida and mocked its Pulitzer Prize. He accused liberals and Speaker Pelosi of "feigned outrage" and "phony moralizing," asserting they were fully briefed on "the program and the methods." He charged Obama with endangering national security by "triangulating," adopting a policy designed less to secure America than to unite and appease his political coalition. "There is never a good time to compromise when the lives and safety of the American people are in the balance." Cheney comes to this quarrel armed with credibility, certitude, consistency and conviction born of eight years of success. Listening to Obama's disquisition, one gets the sense his homeland security policy is the collective view of the editorial board of the Harvard Law Review, with a sign-off by the local chapter of the ACLU. That Cheney is winning seems undeniable. Not only has his approval rating risen to 37 percent, probably higher on national security, Obama's coalition is cracking apart. Speaker Pelosi's credibility has been shredded over what she knew and when she knew it regarding waterboarding. Her comrades are all howling that the CIA lied, but no one wants an investigation. The left wing of the party believes Obama double-crossed them when he refused to release the photos of abused prisoners, kept the military tribunals and sent 22,000 more troops to Afghanistan. And Harry Reid and a Democratic Senate voted 90 to 6 to humiliate Obama by denying him the funds needed to close Guantanamo until he comes up with a plan to hold the 240 hard-core inmates somewhere other than in the United States. Again, Cheney is winning because he has been there and his position is reality-based. For, while the use of harsh interrogation techniques is a legal question, it also presents a moral dilemma. A moral case can be made that, given the murderers we confronted, the prospect of more U.S. dead, the non-lethality of the techniques and the value of the intelligence acquired, it was the right thing to do. And the Democrats are losing because, with few exceptions, they have been neither consistent nor honest. Their key leaders were read in on the interrogation techniques. Few protested. They went along when America seemed in imminent peril. Recall: Democratic Sens. Dodd, Daschle, Edwards, Kerry, Reid and Clinton all voted to authorize war in Iraq. But, by the time the primaries of 2008 came around, they had all moved -- some 180 degrees -- to get right with the Democratic base. And this is Obama's problem. He ran to the left of Hillary and pledged to close Guantanamo, as the prison camp had come to be twinned, though unfairly, in the liberal mind and Muslim world with the sadistic abuses at Abu Ghraib. Obama never thought through what he would do with the hard-core al-Qaida housed in Guantanamo. This is a recurring problem of liberals. They are forever into posturing, assuming heroic moral stands, but rarely consider the consequences in the real world. It was brave to denounce the Shah, Anastasio Somoza and Ian Smith. But when they fell, we got the Ayatollah Khomeini, the Sandinistas and "Comrade Bob" Mugabe in Zimbabwe. In his speeches, Obama is all abstractions. While listeners may say he speaks beautifully, 24 hours later, who remembers what he said? Cheney deals with the concrete. We remember that scene in the White House bunker, with that plane headed for the Capitol, and we remember Khalid Sheikh Mohammad saying he will talk after he gets to New York and sees his lawyer. The Republican Party needs to get off the psychiatrist's couch, and stand up and fight for what it believes. You don't need a moderate with a pretty face to deliver a moderate message. The former vice president with the crocodile grin has just shown the way.
As usual, Pat Buchanan has it right. The Republicans desperately need to grow a backbone. They have nothing to apologize for over some mild coercive questioning of a couple of high value terrorists. Instead of closing ranks and making that case however, they abandon the people who made the tough calls. Has one republican leader other than Cheney stood up for those lawyers who wrote the legal opinions regarding questioning these terrorists? Now liberals are trying to have them disabarred (by other liberals that run state bars). No wonder their own base regards the republican party with disgust.
Lately on ET you refer to the Republicans in the Third Person "They." The First Person "We," condemns your disloyalty and demands that you grow a backbone in the name of party unity and start referring to Republicans as "We."
Everything u just used for reference is pure political Republican warfare against the Dems,the american people buy the fact that one is good and the other is bad, the Rep and Dems are like that scene in Fargo where the salesman tells the customer, let me ask my manager, he went into the mngrs office, B S 'd about sports and came back with an answer, behind the scenes they are the same party, the bottom line is lie your ass off.
Despite Cheney's high negatives, his substantive points are having an influence on public opinion over Obama's style. 49% Oppose Closing Guantanamo Prison Camp rasmussenreports.com Rasmussenreports.com Tue May 26, 8:31 am ET Forty-nine percent (49%) of voters nationwide now disagree with President Barack Obama's decision to close the prison camp for suspected terrorists at the Guantanamo Naval Base in Cuba. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey, conducted after the President's speech on Guantanamo last week, shows that 38% agree with his decision. Just 25% share the President's view that the Guantanamo camp weakened national security. Fifty-one percent (51%) disagree with that perspective. And, by a 57% to 28% margin, voters oppose moving any of the suspected terrorists to prisons in the United States. Republicans and voters not affiliated with either major party strongly oppose transfers to U.S. prisons. Democrats are evenly divided. Just 15% now say the President is Very Likely to close the prison camp during his first year in office while 6% say that is Not at All Likely to happen. Two-thirds of the nation's voters are not so sure—35% say the President is Somewhat Likely to close the prison camp while 30% say he is Not Very Likely to do so. Those figures reflect a sharp drop in expectations about closing the facility. Last November, 49% said that then President-elect Obama was Very Likely to close it during his first year in office. Another 21% said he was somewhat likely to do so and only 12% thought that outcome was unlikely to occur. The support for keeping Guantanamo's prison camp open declined from 59% last summer to 49% last November to 42% in January. In fact, shortly after the President announced his intention to close the camp, a narrow plurality agreed with him. Since then, the trends have moved in the opposite direction. The number who want to keep the facility open increased from 42% in January to 46% in April and 49% now. The number who agree with the President's position has fallen from 44% in January to 38% today. Most Democrats (61%) now agree with the President on this issue. However, 79% of Republicans and 54% of unaffiliateds hold the opposite view. Fifty-two percent (52%) say they're following news coverage of this issue Very Closely and 31% say they're following it Somewhat Closely. Interest in the story is higher among Republicans and unaffiliateds than among Democrats. Other survey data has shown a significant increase in the number who believe our legal system is too concerned about individual rights at the expense of national security. Surveys have consistently found that most Americans believe the terror suspects should be tried in military rather than civilian courts. The number of voters who say the United States and its allies are winning the War on Terror has fallen in the past few months. President Obama continues to earn solid Job Approval ratings. This national telephone survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports May 22-23, 2009. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence (see methodology). Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information. http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20090526/pl_rasmussen/guantanamoprison20090526/print
So says the guy whose name was Gnome and posted > 10,000 times, only to feed his highly insecure and narcistic ego with the "I'm Leaving ET Goodbye Tour", only to then show up with yet another ET screen-name (Scataphagos), among others . . .