Cheap, 'safe' drug kills most cancers

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by universaltrader, Apr 3, 2007.

  1. You do seem to be suffering from NDD. I would try some Mucuna Pruriens [dopamine agonist] and NADH. Both readily available OTC. Go with Oxy if that doesn't work. ;)
     
    #141     Apr 13, 2007
  2. maxpi

    maxpi

    Democrats have a litlle power in the Senate and the FDA tries for a power grab. What else is new?? I don't trust Bush to nix this kind of thing either.
     
    #142     Apr 13, 2007
  3. NO WONDER DRUG!
    Hopefully someone posted this article from New Scientist. Don't get your hopes up.

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19325890.200-no-wonder-drug.html
    It is indeed scandalous that promising anti-cancer agents such as dichloroacetate (DCA) go begging for support simply because they are cheap and unpatentable (20 January, p 3 and p 13). You have done a great service in bringing this information and perspective before the public.

    However, after you published online your first article on this proposed anti-cancer treatment (17 January), my medical information service was deluged with demands from desperate patients for what you call a "too good to be true" wonder drug. We had to inform them that DCA had never been tested in humans, only in cell lines and experimental animals, and that it was totally unavailable to today's patients.

    You did explain that it is too early to draw therapeutic conclusions, despite the promising lab work. But the magazine headline "Cheap, safe drug kills most cancers" implies that DCA is known to destroy actual tumours in humans. This continues to generate waves of unwarranted expectation among many patients and has already resulted in severe disappointment for people seeking a solution to life-threatening cancers.

    It should also be pointed out that DCA is a by-product of the water chlorination process and a well-known environmental pollutant. It has been shown to be carcinogenic in rodent models and is also genotoxic, hepatotoxic and teratogenic in animals, all at doses well below what would seemingly be necessary to achieve a therapeutic effect in cancer patients. There are worthwhile anti-cancer drugs that are carcinogenic. But it would have been good to inform readers of this.
     
    #143     Apr 14, 2007
  4. nkhoi

    nkhoi

  5. Wow, I've seen lots of web sites with misinformation but that one ranks up near the top - complete nonsense.

    Oh and what a surprise that they are selling an "anti-oxidant"

    I guess false hope can be profitable but what a shameful way to earn a living.
     
    #145     Apr 14, 2007
  6. maxpi

    maxpi

    People that want to blow something off always say "nonsense", or "been debunked", etc. Cite some sources if you want to say those things, otherwise you are just a political hit man.

    The website quotes nobel prize winners and other people that are certainly credible. Check out Lorraine Day's videos, she was a surgeon that had seen what chemo/radiation does and knew it's effectivity for sure. She got breast cancer and refused the very treatments that her profession advocates and cured herself with nutrition.
     
    #146     Apr 14, 2007
  7. Cancer is horrible, chemotherapy is horrible but unfortunatly it is the best that modern science can offer for this disease at the moment. Prevention is king and possibly gene therapy in the future. I am not a political hitman, I just live and work in an arena where only peer reviewed work is acceptable not a website which takes quotes out of context and provides misinformation for their own gain.
     
    #147     Apr 14, 2007
  8. You're just showing your ignorance.

    In the mid-1970's, scientists discovered that every human brain contains natural chemicals which are nearly identical to opiates (and also act on the same opiate receptors). These endogenous opioids are called endorphins, dynorphins, and enkephalins.

    Look it up if you don't believe me, and then come back to apologize.
     
    #148     Apr 15, 2007
  9. maxpi

    maxpi

    Ok, if you are doing such important work don't let us interfere with your schedule then.
     
    #149     Apr 15, 2007
  10. maxpi

    maxpi

    I am pretty far into believing that we can psychologically block either production of said chemicals or disable the receptor sites. It seems like a learned behavior really. Maybe something traumatic happened when we were extremely happy and we developed a psychological superstition that forever blocks the happy juices... I am repeatedly taken back to many little traumas that happened in childhood because I was so happy I did not think.. im going to see if I can undo this psychological damage and get the juices flowing, I'll report back. I have found that it is easy to undo psychological damage from trauma but whether the chemistry will be restored at a later stage of life.... haven't proven that for myself yet. It has to be better than taking a drug, some bupe might be in order to kick start the system at some point though, time will tell. The Earth is flooded with ignorance and sadism, life is just a big project of extrication.
     
    #150     Apr 15, 2007