Chavez takes over Venezuelan energy sector

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  1. The FED is a private un-democratic cartel of bankers who controls your economy. And you think that you have "Freedom"

    Priceless.
     
    #31     Jan 15, 2007
  2. JB3

    JB3

    And all funded by the oil company's money. Thank you, come again. And when I speak of history, it is not about Chavez. Great men have become corrupt when faced with greed and power.
     
    #32     Jan 15, 2007
  3. Freedom in the USA ?!



    The Sovereign Society Offshore A-Letter


    Thursday, December 21, 2006
    Vol. 8 No. 253
    In Today's Letter:
    Comment: Not Just for Screening Terrorists
    Offshore: Hong Kong's Economy Takes Off... Again
    Currencies: Is the Dollar Rally Over?
    The Real Purpose Behind the
    Terror Screening System

    Today's comment is by Mark Nestmann, Wealth & Preservation & Tax Consultant for The Sovereign Society.

    Dear A-Letter Reader,

    I'm bewildered over all the fuss surrounding the recent revelations that every international traveler entering or leaving the U.S. for the last four years has been given a "terrorism risk" assessment. And this assessment will reside in a secret file for 40 YEARS after the border crossing.
    I'm not disputing that this is an outrageous and unacceptable invasion of privacy, and that 40 years is far too long to keep this information on file. But come on now, people, what do you expect?

    We've accepted the "no fly" rules like sheep. How do you think the government has decided who to put on the no-fly list? Through the secret terrorism risk assessment system, of course. Indeed, I suspect the no-fly list wouldn't exist without this system in the first place.

    I've long maintained that the "no fly" rules have very little to do with security and are in fact designed to identify political opponents to the Bush administration. This may sound like a paranoid fantasy, but here's my reasoning.

    According to the Homeland Security Administration (HSA), about 400 million people enter or leave the U.S. each year. HSA won't say how many of these people it considers terrorists, but there are about 44,000 on the no fly list, as of late September. We know the overwhelming number of these people are NOT terrorists. After all, people like Sen. Ted Kennedy are on the list. But let's say that 1% of the people on the list are, in fact, terrorists.

    That means that for each terrorist the HSA's super-duper data-mining software correctly identifies, it misidentifies 100 people as potential terrorists. If in fact, the HSA's efforts have resulted in terrorists being apprehended-and the HSA is not saying is has-then some might believe this is an acceptable cost. But consider that the people on the no-fly list include 14 of the Sept. 11 2001 hijackers who have been dead for five years. It also includes convicted terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, now serving a life sentence, and Saddam Hussein, who has been sentenced to death in Baghdad. Given these facts, you begin to wonder how accurate this system really is, and what its actual purpose might be.

    The HSA surely knows this. Yet it persists in its data-mining program, ostensibly to find terrorists. They persist in spite of the number of falsely identified terrorists vastly outnumbering real terrorists, not to mention having numerous dead and incarcerated real terrorists on its no-fly list. So then what is the real purpose of the HSA program?

    It turns out that looking for other types of people who are not as rare as terrorists is much more plausible using data-mining technologies. For instance, there are a lot of international travelers who don't like George Bush. Some of them may subscribe to anti-Bush publications, make phone calls to other people who don't like Bush, etc. Since all of these records are "mined" by the National Targeting Center, it would be easy for the HSA to use this information to identify Bush political opponents.

    In other words, while the HSA program is almost useless for identifying terrorists, it's an extremely effective way for the government to engage in mass political intelligence gathering. And that's what I think it's being used for.

    MARK NESTMANN, Wealth Preservation & Tax Consultant,
    on behalf of The Sovereign Society

    EDITOR'S NOTE: Did you hear that? If you're an international traveler, they keep a secret terrorist file on you for 40 years! So if you went to Europe last summer, the U.S. government will have your terrorism file until 2046. And that's assuming you never fly abroad again. If the government has a whole file on you just because you dared to fly overseas, imagine what they know about your finances. It's time to fight back to claim at LEAST your financial privacy, if you can't even fly without creating an entire file.





    The USA is one of the few countries worldwide that taxes it's citizens even when they are not living anymore in the Sates


    Sorry, a little bit of topic :eek:
     
    #33     Jan 15, 2007
  4. Who does the oil belong to?
     
    #34     Jan 15, 2007
  5. Venezuela

    correct answer ? :cool:
     
    #35     Jan 15, 2007
  6. JB3

    JB3

    Who sold the oil to the oil companies?
     
    #36     Jan 15, 2007
  7. Bribed government officials


    correct answer ?:cool:
     
    #37     Jan 15, 2007
  8. JB3

    JB3

    Let's say a local man owns a piece of empty land, it is a valuable site because it has great scenary, but he is not making any money on it. A business person comes to him, and gives him a proposition, the business man wants to build a 1st class resort on the local man's property and give him a percentage of profit after all it is said and done. The local man have the right to say no, and kick out the business man for trespassing, but he looks at his alternative, which is zero income but owning a piece of empty land, and says OK fine...let's do this business deal for X number of years knowing full well, something is better than nothing. So they shake hands, and the deal is agreed upon. The business man invested a ton of his own money in hiring the best workers, paying for expertise, building the resort and finally getting people to come. The money starts rolling in, and business man starts to get his investment returned and making money and gives the local man his cut of the deal. Then the local man, sees how much is actually being made, gets greedy and suddenly changes the rules and claims sole ownership of the land and the resort for the good of the people.

    Hmmm...

    Corrupt bribed government officials? Or just officials that look at their alternatives (AT THE TIME) and finding it more attractive to make something rather than nothing.
     
    #38     Jan 15, 2007
  9. you are comparing oranges to apples;

    your local man didn't make the contract with the oil company


    anyway, it's time for a change ,no ?
     
    #39     Jan 15, 2007
  10. Let us say that the local man is represented by a 3rd party who cuts a very poor deal with a business person in return for an illegal kick back of which the local man has no knowledge.
    The business man and the representive are both equally guilty of transgressing the law, not to mention morality.
    What do you think that the local man is going to do when he eventually discovers the truth and has the power to act.
     
    #40     Jan 15, 2007