Charlie Munger, 90 years old , and smarter than 100 of you put together

Discussion in 'Trading' started by stock777, May 3, 2013.

  1. Fragmentation of liquidity is clearly a major issue, as you say.

     
    #11     May 3, 2013
  2. S2007S

    S2007S

    #12     May 3, 2013
  3. S2007S

    S2007S

    One day this will be talked about...documentaries will be made and books written on it .....they will bring this issue to light well after the fact that it has created havoc on the system, but until then hft's will continue to do what they do with zero rules in place....isn't that how wallstreet always plays.
     
    #13     May 3, 2013
  4. No one cares about daytraders, HFT is so short term that it's not supposed to affect longer term players. It's events like May 6 2010 that create the real problem; systemic market instability caused by complete automation. As long as we can prevent this, no reason to believe that HFT won't continue to be a viable strategy.

     
    #14     May 3, 2013
  5. WORD - Dark pools are just insane. There are some that only huge players like banks and hedgefunds have access to. The stockmarket has become so rigged, it's really a big joke.
     
    #15     May 3, 2013
  6. toolazy

    toolazy

    predict any market that us has control over will lose in liquidity and eventually shut down as only lobbyists & co will be left.

    really, the only thing left is currencies, and especially nonusd pairs.
     
    #16     May 3, 2013
  7. I'm a noob on this topic, but is the advantage of dark pools just more liquidity and better average prices? How much better are the prices, it can't be more than +- 1% right?

    it seems like the only way to fix this problem is to just make dark pools illegal. Gambling is only allowed in certain places so they just should do the same with trading of stocks.

    Also the whole front running thing seems silly to call out. The term has existed for 100+ years probably because the act of it has existed for just as long. Why is this now the big issue for Munger? weird..
     
    #17     May 3, 2013
  8. achilles28

    achilles28

    Spot on.

    HFT is mostly legalized front-running. Fuck them. Put them out of business.

    They're parasites. Nothing more.
     
    #18     May 3, 2013
  9. toolazy

    toolazy

    you can't. instead markets will be destroyed.

    there is noone left to say enough guys, we gone too far. We will kill the golden goose.
     
    #19     May 3, 2013
  10. vicirek

    vicirek

    OK. Who will take the other side of your trade then?

    Here is little help to understand the problem: The money to cover market valuation of all securities issued and currently traded have not been printed yet.

    You need somebody to create artificial liquidity to create illusion that there is buyer/seller in the market and HFT fills the VOID.

    They are not going to do it for free because there is cost and risk to it.
     
    #20     May 3, 2013