Characteristics of a Successful Trader

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by EricP, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. #301     Jul 30, 2009
  2. some people would also have added

    ACD instead of GS

    so be it

    ACDRMGM

    :p
     
    #302     Jul 30, 2009
  3. dirkd

    dirkd

    Here is my 2 cents,

    a successful trader can COLLECT information, ANALYZE information, make a DECISION, and IMPLEMENT your decision. A successful trader must be humble and at peace with himself/herself. Being Emotional does nothing but hinder your psyche and trading abilitiy. Learn Yoga, make sure you are physically fit and most of all learn to appreciate the little things in life.
     
    #303     Jul 31, 2009
  4. jalee25

    jalee25

    I might have missed something... but does being humble mean being afraid to lose? Isn't a successful trader also defined by someone who is willing to lose and has the courage to keep trading with the desire to win?
     
    #304     Aug 6, 2009
  5. Redneck

    Redneck

    Jalee25


    IMHO Sir (the irony :))


    Being humble has nothing to do with being afraid to lose – and actually quit the opposite


    I believe being humble has everything to do with several other things though….

    They include but are not limited to


    Being comfortable with, and confident in – oneself… but never egotistical about it

    Knowing – the mkt is always right, no matter what

    My opinion about what the mkt should do, or should not do – doesn’t matter, and never will

    I don’t (or ever will) know it all – so I better be able to keep my mouth shut, and be able to listen and learn from everyone

    Being totally comfortably with / and willing to admit – when I am wrong

    Being able to willing embrace change


    Being able to identify, reconcile and/ or accept – the “absolute” (and at times very ugly) truths that reside within our self….. While also being able to come to terms with, and accept – the “absolute” truths about the market and trading

    FWIW & IM(not so humble)O

    This last one is the MOST important of all Sir.. IT IS the “core” foundation upon which each of us must build a trader…. And its strength (our ability to do it) – will ultimately determine if we succeed or fail

    eta - There always resides the potiential of a huge difference between the "absolute truth" and our preception of the truth...

    We must always be able and willing to close that gap





    As to your second question – yes it could be – along with a myriad of other things – or not…

    Your definition is yours – never allows others to influence you…. but always be willing to learn from others and adapt yourself



    Regards

    RN
     
    #305     Aug 8, 2009
  6. AAA30

    AAA30

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao1xPIvz9Lk

    Even Tiger makes mistakes. But he does not let them get to him.
     
    #306     Aug 8, 2009
  7. AAA30

    AAA30

    This is a very good point. Many people treat trading as something other then a business. But it is not really any different. You need to become proficient in your specialty from that point you expand, may be in size or into other areas. But the main thing is you focus on growth and like all successful traders (I do not count my self in this group yet) you need to start from somewhere how ever small that is. Take for example you have a simple edge that on average produces 1% a day compounded and you start with $25000 of capital. After 73 days or 3 and half months you will average $500 a day in pre tax profits, after 143 days you will average $1000 a day. Lets say that after this point you decide to withdrawal 100 a day for your self but you continue. Now at this point you have done very well you have 100K in capital in your business and making that 1 % will become easier.
    At the end of this year (250 days) you will average $2729.58 daily and your capital will be roughly $275,587. So now you will need to pay tax on the gains. And start the next year.

    What does this show? Yes I know you will have bumps along the way big losses mistakes bad luck, ect. but what this shows is that you need to make a plan and stick to it. Discipline is what make successful traders. Discipline is what make trader grow to a size where they make amounts that newbie’s see and are in ahh!. Beginners who see people making large gains and try to make them themself on a smaller base not knowing what situation the winner is in makes the mistake of not trading according to his/her situation and therefore increases the chances that they will blow up or fail. You must focus on your own progression and improvement not trying to be like mike, or who ever.

    The reason I say this is that my latest losing streak is due to wanting to make the amounts that other more experienced traders make while not being as experienced or as capitalized. This made me take much larger risks then I normally would, ignore basic price structure (Hoping price would come back when showing a failure of trend), and end up with loses much larger then I am use too. Then the psychology starts to take over and you increase the bad decision making. I have realized this now and have made the changes necessary to regain my focus. And I know if I focus on improving my game however little at a time those gains will add up to a large amount over a short period of time. And yes eventually I will make those large gains but I will do it when I am ready. In fact I think now I will do better them what I have seen done before.
     
    #307     Aug 8, 2009
  8. gaj

    gaj

    thanks, eric, for starting this thread long ago. i posted a comment to it at some point but saw this when i was checking for some old ideas, and much of it rings true.

    hopefully others can learn from it as well.
     
    #308     Feb 13, 2010
  9. EricP

    EricP

    Thanks.

    After reading Corey's excellent "Grinding it Out" thread, I've been thinking of adding a few additional thoughts to this thread. In addition, I'll try to answer some questions, assuming the thread doesn't deteriorate into silly attacks and other nonsense like it did a year ago.
     
    #309     Feb 13, 2010
  10. GG1972

    GG1972

    #310     Feb 13, 2010