Characteristics of a Successful Trader

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by EricP, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. EricP

    EricP

    I can only speculate for people like Sam Walton, but I assume he was happy with his life. To me, that's the goal for a 'successful life', to be happy.

    Another thought regarding spending... You've probably heard a quote (Market Wizards?) that for the most successful traders, money is merely a means of 'keeping score'. For them, trading is not about the money, or what they can buy. Instead, money is the scorecard by which they measure their success.

    In addition, in addition to personal financial security, financial success in trading provides the means to help others, whether it be charity donations or perhaps funding college savings for relatives, etc. Those sorts of things can bring a lot of personal satisfaction, IMO.

    Lastly, we can't underestimate the personal satisfaction associated with knowing that your excessive tax payments are bailing out the automakers, the financial firms, the over-spending state and local governments, and the homeowners that lied about their incomes and put no money down to buy that huge house they couldn't afford. :)
     
    #181     Dec 22, 2008
  2. Eric... you must start a church...

    If you truly believe so why not just donate all your money to some dumb mooching charity and make all your money back via trading.

    You MUST have the skills.
     
    #182     Dec 22, 2008
  3. Eric,

    I have read market Wizards and I doubt they (successful traders) drive beat up cars and live in their old neighborhoods but I digress.

    As for Sam being happy, perhaps he was but by the same token there are many people "happy" in Bangladesh. Just because somebody is happy does not mean he is living an exciting or interesting life. I cannot fault the poor peasant in SE Asia for not being able to do much more than survive, but for somebody like Sam to piss life away in Arkansas, .... like I said it is just sad.

    Since in order to get bold answers one must ask bold questions, so here it comes?

    Do traders of your statue really live a working Joe the plumber lifestyles? and if so then why?
    Aren't you interested in how things are in Tahiti, Indonesia, Argentina? Wouldn't you want to take one of those cruises around the world? I mean is life really about hoarding it and then dying?
     
    #183     Dec 22, 2008
  4. Sorry, saxon22 and Eric. I have an issue when it comes to teach and dealing with newbies. It was never easy... But what's ironic is ironic....

    EricP, why do you post your results on ET? How does that relate to being humble?

    Even if you have me on ignore.... Other people will read it, and if they're interested in hearing it, they should just quote saxon22 and wait for your reply.

    I've been trying to be nice... that ain't my style.
     
    #184     Dec 22, 2008
  5. Sorry, saxon22... he sidelined your original question and I may have helped him do it.

    Don't bother with this. Just get back to your original doubt.
     
    #185     Dec 22, 2008
  6. Eric,

    I take back all the msgs I've mentioned in PM. My original instincts were correct. You are a one hit wonder. Seriously, I'll give you another year, and you'll be a lighter-weight Dan Zanger living off his past success.

    Not to mention, most of the bashing I've done is pretty much an act to divert some of Eric's "ironic material" , for his sake. I'm a moron, mentioning this but who cares. It's actually great not to care what people think of you in ET.

    Phew... great that I cleared that off my chest.

    So... continue discussing...

    I'm out.
     
    #186     Dec 22, 2008
  7. volente_00

    volente_00

    Saxon, in this game the money can go as quick as it is made and sometimes even quicker if you are not careful. All it takes going on tilt one time and you could piss away years of gains or worse yet end up in the hole on a margin call. Living within your means does not mean you have to hoard it all and never spend. I'm from the school of practicality. Do you really need a 5000 square foot house when you can be just as happy in a 2500 square foot one ? In the end, you will be remembered for the lives you touched and the people you helped, not for your net worth.
     
    #187     Dec 22, 2008
  8. ElCubano

    ElCubano

    beautiful...
     
    #188     Dec 22, 2008
  9. Dustin

    Dustin

    Regarding lifestyles of those in question...

    -Of the guys that are married most of them have been with their wives since before they made much $. Now most of the wives don't work, or at least don't have to. This goes for my situation also. There's a big difference between living a great/healthy lifestyle, and showing all of your neighbors that you make multiples of their income. My friends and family would probably guess I make 1/4 of what I do and that would go for most of the guys I know.

    -The more you make, the less you want to spend. It's more exciting to see your money grow than to have a nicer car imo. I would rather have my (future) kids college accounts, 401ks, and IRA's funded then take vacations and stock my wifes closet with Prada.

    -I can vouch for the fact that Eric would be happier eating at McDonald's than just about anywhere else. He sees value there :)
     
    #189     Dec 22, 2008
  10. huh?:confused:
     
    #190     Dec 22, 2008