CFTC warns Oil can turn Negative again!

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by Primal Trader, May 13, 2020.

  1. xandman

    xandman

    You have been reading too much financial journalism. There are accredited sources of information. Chill out and stop doing a brain dump of what is on your mind.
     
    #11     May 13, 2020
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  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    XOM -5%
     
    #12     May 13, 2020
  3. KISS

    KISS

    More like you have been reading fake news and the information you have has no credential. The exchange and your source has no 'credentials'.. You have lost your trust and credibility.

    People play fair because you can get killed if you rip people off or show disrespect. There are no lawsuits. They know the judge is corrupt too so point in legal proceedings.

     
    #13     May 13, 2020
  4. KISS

    KISS

    When I was 9 year old, a old man in his 70' told me not to believe everything you read in the paid 'fake news' with an 'agenda' or known propaganda.

    Acting on wrong information can be fatal, disastrous and is worse than no information. evil news.

    Lying is punishable by death and can get your killed. and is part of the ten commandments

    thou shall not lie
    thou shall not kill
    thou shall not steal
     
    #14     May 13, 2020
  5. BAT31

    BAT31

    Newbies should just find another contract to trade...
     
    #15     May 13, 2020
  6. Rh?
     
    #16     May 13, 2020
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    When the low limits of one penny were removed from the energy futures products last month, that is the sign that now anything goes. This should not be a surprise.
     
    #17     May 13, 2020
  8. donnap

    donnap

    The June contract was not "rolled" into the July contract.

    However, for some time now, the July contract has been the most liquid contract.

    I have an open June position and have been trading it for weeks.

    However, when I closed a June contract today, I could not reopen it, because IB now won't let you take on June risk 5 business days before expiry.

    I was forced to move to July and trade the spread. That trade is closed now.

    With my current June position, an option combo + future, I can only reduce risk.

    This is problematic right now, but tomorrow is option expiry and that will streamline things.

    Traders should be leaving June over the next couple of days. June OI will likely drop to very low levels. Negative prices are extremely unlikely. JMHO.
     
    #18     May 13, 2020
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  9. themickey

    themickey

    https://www.afr.com/markets/equity-...s-crude-contract-expiry-looms-20200518-p54tzg

    A month after negative oil prices, US crude contract expiry looms
    Devika Krishna Kumar May 18, 2020 – 12.52pm

    A month after sellers had to pay nearly $US40 a barrel to get rid of US oil futures, the next watershed moment looms with the expiry of the June contract on Tuesday - and so far there is little sign of a repeat of the historic plunge.

    The extent of the damage that the coronavirus pandemic had inflicted on the oil industry came into focus on April 20, when the US benchmark WTI contract plunged to minus $US38 a barrel.

    The virus destroyed so much fuel demand as billions of people stopped traveling that there was almost nowhere left to store the oil. So on the day before the May contract expired, investors stuck with barrels had to pay buyers to take it away.

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    The June WTI oil contract will expire on May 19. Bloomberg

    A month later, governments around the world are slowly lifting travel restrictions and there are signs that demand is recovering from its nadir. Oil prices have staged something of a recovery, with US crude rising on Monday to more than $US30 a barrel and hitting its highest level since March 16.

    As oil producers worldwide cut output rapidly, the pressure on storage is easing: US government data this week showed crude inventories fell.

    "There's clearly a different feel to the oil market heading into this contract expiry, with production cuts having been enforced globally, either through deals or unilaterally," said Craig Erlam, senior market analyst at OANDA.

    "But will it be enough to avert another panic selling moment? The odds have certainly reduced ... there's a fine line between confidence and complacency and we can only hope that line hasn't been crossed or early next week it could quickly unravel."

    The positive mood was reinforced as US Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell issued an optimistic outlook for economic recovery later this year.

    "Assuming there is not a second wave of the coronavirus, I think you will see the economy recover steadily through the second half of this year," Powell said Sunday night in broadcast remarks.
    Still, the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the federal agency that oversees futures and options trading, issued a rare warning on Wednesday to exchange operators and brokerages ahead of expiry, telling them they need to protect markets from manipulation and potentially intervene to protect customers.

    Several brokerages or futures commission merchants (FCMs), including discount giant TD Ameritrade Corp, have restricted customers from buying new positions in some crude contracts since the price crash.

    The Chicago Mercantile Exchange, which hosts the trade in WTI futures, last week raised maintenance margins for the June contract by 20 per cent. That would make it too expensive for some smaller retail investors to hold many open positions ahead of expiry.

    Asked about CME's expectations, a spokesperson said the exchange would not speculate on whether prices will be negative for any product and referred Reuters to notices about its systems' ability to accommodate negative pricing.

    Last month, the CME ordered the United States Oil Fund LP , the largest oil-focused exchange-traded product in the country, to limit its position in the June contract to no more than 10,000 lots. The fund has issued filings to tell investors it has gone further than that - and has spread holdings through contracts expiring in July, August and September.

    Open interest in June is already dwindling as a result of those moves, standing at about 75,000 lots on Thursday, Refinitiv Eikon data showed. That was down from nearly 135,000 lots on Wednesday.

    On April 17, two days before the May contract expired, open interest stood at about 108,600 lots.

    Plunge aftermath
    The WTI contract is physically settled, meaning the holder at expiry must take delivery of the oil in Cushing, Oklahoma. Retail investors keen to take a punt on oil prices through futures contracts have no interest in actually owning barrels of real crude.

    Last month, retail investors got caught holding contracts close to expiry when buyers were scarce and storage at Cushing was effectively full, sending them into a frenzy to sell.

    "Bluntly, small retail traders had no business being in the May contract at that time," said Henry Lichtenstein and Brett Friedman at risk management advisors Winhall Risk Analytics. Those traders' FCMs, the exchange or the CFTC should have stepped in and prohibited them from trading, they said.

    "This would have avoided a financial effect on futures traders due to the allowance of negative prices that we conservatively estimate in the $US3.8 billion range."

    The mess last month threatened the contract's status as one of the two top global oil price gauges, according to Patricia Hemsworth, senior vice president of energy risk management at PGM Commodity Services.

    "I believe the debacle of the May delivery threatened a benchmark which has provided the industry with an invaluable price discovery and risk transfer tool for 37 years," she said.

    Among those impacted were investors in derivatives contracts based on the WTI that are traded on exchanges as far afield as China and Russia.
    Bank of China (BoC) said it had hired lawyers to write to the CME urging it to investigate reasons behind abnormal fluctuations on April 21. Retail investors may have lost more than 9 billion yuan ($US1.3 billion) from BoC's crude oil product, financial news outlet Caixin reported last month, citing unnamed sources.

    Another factor that could help avoid a repeat of the crunch this month is that inventories at Cushing have begun to decline, falling by 3 million barrels last week, U.S. Energy Information Administration data showed. That should free up some space for those taking delivery of the June contract.

    In physical markets, the forum for buying and selling actual oil rather than futures contracts, activity slowed down ahead of expiry. Physical deals are usually priced based on the benchmark and traders are keen to avoid exposure to any volatility ahead of expiry.

    "Producers are hesitant to sell for June," one trading source at a U.S. producer said.

    "I'm done for June at the moment."

    Reuters
     
    #19     May 18, 2020
  10. maxinger

    maxinger

    CL M20 contract expires tomorrow.

    price is around $30, and is getting further and further and further and further away from zero.

    chances of it going below zero is virtually zero.
     
    #20     May 18, 2020