CERN Discovers Neutrinos That Travel Faster Than Light... FTL Possible

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by CoolTraderDude, Sep 24, 2011.

  1. nnfx

    nnfx

    Space elevator u say? wtf?? What kind of b***s*** is that?

    Lol man, you clearly know nothing about how scientific experiments are done and how progress is made.

    The first definite data about Higgs boson will be available only in 2013 and even if they dont find it they already made big breakthrough with LHC. Actually most scientist hope they dont find it as that will mean they have to fundamentally change the theory.
     
    #11     Sep 25, 2011
  2. J Ski

    J Ski

    If this is true, it turns over all physics.
    Books, studies, research, poof, all years of
    study, wiped out.
     
    #12     Sep 25, 2011
  3. joneog

    joneog

    $4 Bil doesn't even sound like a lot of waste anymore.

    Of course, assuming it existed, you could buy about 25 billion pounds of rice with that money.
     
    #13     Sep 25, 2011
  4. nitro

    nitro

    This is possibly what is happening:

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2005/10/25/lorentz-invariance-and-you/

    The article, while technically accurate, is historically inaccurate. Einstein wasn't much of a mathematician, and in fact it was Lorenz Poncaire and Minkowski that set Relativity on the mathematical basis that we know it today. Much of Special Relativity is already in Maxwell.

    This is a wonderful article by one of the giants of 20th century mathematics:

    http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s8-08/8-08.htm
     
    #14     Sep 25, 2011
  5. I thought the CL dom already went faster than the speed of light??
     
    #15     Sep 25, 2011
  6. NITRO:This is possibly what is happening:

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/c...riance-and-you/

    The article, while technically accurate, is historically inaccurate. Einstein wasn't much of a mathematician, and in fact it was Lorenz Poncaire and Minkowski that set Relativity on the mathematical basis that we know it today. Much of Special Relativity is already in Maxwell.

    This is a wonderful article by one of the giants of 20th century mathematics:

    http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s8-08/8-08.htm

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    That's not how I learned it. Lorenz transformation equations come after Einsteins special theory of relativity.

    hoodooman
    bs in physics and math.
     
    #16     Sep 25, 2011
  7. That's what all the physicits said when Relativity came around...! :D This sort of thing happens from time to time but it is still a little to early to claim that the results will have that effect.
     
    #17     Sep 25, 2011
  8. is this worrying all you hft scum? the thought of someone frontrunning the frontrunners
     
    #18     Sep 25, 2011
  9. nitro

    nitro

    "...Consequently, Majorana and Dirac neutrinos would behave differently under CP transformations (actually Lorentz and CPT transformations). The distinction between Majorana and Dirac neutrinos is not only theoretical; a massive Dirac neutrino would have nonzero magnetic and electric dipole moments, which could be observed experimentally, whereas a Majorana neutrino would not...."

    That neutrinos may be Majorana, is pointing more and more to physics that is violated in CPT transformations

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_neutrino
     
    #19     Sep 26, 2011
  10. Mods, please change Nitro's nick to Neutro :)
     
    #20     Sep 26, 2011