CDC Makes MAJOR change on mRNA safety claims

Discussion in 'Politics' started by misterkel, Aug 14, 2022.

  1. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    It’s so funny seeing Mr Deeply Committed GWB to the narrative of safe and effective when everything is crashing all around him.
    He’s been fooled and cannot be convinced.
    He probably still thinks the mRNA LNPs stay at the injection site and leave the body a few days later. He’s the poster child for mass formation psychosis.
     
    #61     Sep 1, 2022
  2. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Pathetic and pitiful excuse for ignoring the safety signals reported (underreported) by millions of people. The anti-freedom pro myocarditis crowd like GWB just don’t understand how the AE reporting sites work. They latch on to reports that are dismissed by the CDC as proof that the system is filled with overreports and false claims.

    As usual, they are dead wrong. They've been wrong about everything since the beginning.
     
    #62     Sep 1, 2022
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    these redhats should be worried about their vaccine derangement syndrome instead of the vax itself.
     
    #63     Sep 2, 2022
  4. No thanks. It sounds like you're on the mRNA vaxxes are awesome train. I hope you enjoy the ride as long as it lasts. I really do. I see many adverse reactions. If you want to focus on shingles or whatever in order to make yourself feel like the general biopharma induced catastrophe is not happening, that's your business.
    Go right ahead and parse out or not your shingles hypothesis. I don't care.
     
    #64     Sep 2, 2022
  5. Peer-reviewed paper from journal Vaccine shows the vaxxes were negative in R/B.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22010283

    Quote:
    In the Moderna trial, the excess risk of serious AESIs (15.1 per 10,000 participants) was higher than the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group (6.4 per 10,000 participants).

    In the Pfizer trial, the excess risk of serious AESIs (10.1 per 10,000) was higher than the risk reduction for COVID-19 hospitalization relative to the placebo group (2.3 per 10,000 participants).


    Breakdown article: https://philharper.substack.com/p/peer-reviewed-vaccine-trial-data
     
    #65     Sep 2, 2022
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The primary author of this paper is a well-known anti-vaxxer clown, Peter Fraiman, who has failed numerous fact checks. He is most known for providing completely false information to the FDA about the Covid vaccines in a September 17th hearing, being part of DeSantis' panel of anti-vax clowns, appearing as an "expert" spouting lies in as a member of Senator Johnson's panel of anti-vax clowns, and numerous other false claims including that vaccines are killing many people.

    This non-peer reviewed paper is in a pay-to-play, open-access publication. The paper as well as the lead author is a joke.
     
    #66     Sep 2, 2022
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Unlike you --- rational people understand how the VAERS database works. In fact the operation of the VAERS database is well documented by the CDC. Basically anyone can submit an report regarding an adverse reaction to a vaccine. The CDC reviews the reports and follows up with those regarding serious side-effects to confirm if they had any relationship to the vaccine. The CDC also uses the submissions to spot trends regarding adverse vaccine impacts. For example, the relationship between blood clots and the J&J vaccine were found via CDC follow-up via submissions.

    Note that if someone got a vaccine anywhere near the time they died then the medical institution will normally submit the information to VAERS. So if a 91 year old man who had cancer for years dies of cancer 30 days after he got his Covid vaccination then the case will normally show up in VAERS -- of course in this situation and nearly all others the death had nothing to do with the Covid vaccine. Currently, after proper investigation, there are only a dozen deaths medically proven to be associated with Covid vaccination in the U.S. -- all of them involving J&J.

    Sadly, anti-vaxxers have taken it upon themselves to submit many false filings to VAERS regarding the Covid vaccine. Many involve celebrities who have died -- in many cases these celebrities were not even vaccinated.

    IMO -- at this point the CDC should shut-down public access to information stored in the VAERS database so anti-vaxxers stop spreading falsehoods about the information -- and stop gaming the system with piles of false reports so they can peddle conspiracy nonsense.
     
    #67     Sep 2, 2022
  8. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    You just lying. Nonstop lying. It’s really unbelievable. You’ve been lying since day 1 and COVID has made you utterly retarded. And a perpetual liar. You antiscience liar.
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    #68     Sep 2, 2022
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Prior the Covid pandemic less than 0.1% of the U.S. population considered themselves to be anti-vaxxers. The majority of these anti-vaxxers were naturalist, crunchy-granola, don't shave armpits liberals with all sorts of other flacky views.

    Thanks to the MAGA crowd, being anti-vax became a proud political symbol in America post-pandemic. Over 41% of Republicans refuse to take Covid vaccines. At least 30% of the U.S. population as anti-vax or don't trust the vaccine -- all of this driven by fabricated misinformation.

    The traditional anti-vax clowns in the U.S. such as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. have viewed these past couple years as a golden age to grift money. They quickly converted themselves from liberals to MAGA conservatives and worked to grift as much money as possible off the Trump sheep -- all the while promoting outrageously incorrect anti-vax claims.

    Of course, as being directed online by their anti-vax leaders, this has led to a very high number of completely fabricated claims being submitted into VAERS regarding the Covid vaccine. Most estimates state that at least 50% of the submissions are completely fake in the past 18 months.

    Also the volume of VAERS submissions has gone up as the CDC has urged legitimate medical institutions to submit information and not ignore the requirement they file information on adverse effects --- even unrelated deaths that occur in recently vaccinated people.

    Sadly -- the politically driven MAGA anti-vax views have folded over into other vaccinations against deadly diseases. Many of these diseases have started their resurgence in communities the U.S. including polio and measles. This is coupled with MAGA politicians pushing bills in state legislatures to require standard vaccinations for children to attend schools -- which will greatly undermine public health.
     
    #69     Sep 3, 2022
  10. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Here’s a stat - nearly 100% of what you said is a complete and utter lie. Congrats - you are anti-freedom, anti-science, pro-tyranny, pro-myocarditis while completely submerged in mass formation psychosis. Every base of retardation has been covered.

    YOU HAVE BEEN WRONG ON EVERYTHING DUDE. EVERYTHING. You and your ilk.

    NO ONE IS LISTENING TO YOUR LIES ANYMORE.
     
    #70     Sep 3, 2022