CBOE Variance Futures

Discussion in 'Options' started by sle, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. heech

    heech

    I thought that's what you might have meant. If you have a way to replicate your version of realized vol, then with the var swap you have a perfect arb. Say for example, you are confident that if you delta-hedged your long option portfolio x times a day, your realized vol (aka gamma scalped gains) would be higher than the eod realized vol... You can sell the var swap and lock in your profits.

    As far as derailing, I've been kinda concerned I'm derailing with my over pedantic posts. I'd just hope everyone keeps posting their thoughts / questions, we can all wade through and learn together.
     
    #111     Dec 24, 2012
  2. talked to the same guy at IB today.. he told me to put in a ticket to request the product... he said to check back.. he also said that if enough people request it that they would surely make it happen... soooo if your with ib maybe it would help to put a ticket in..
     
    #112     Dec 26, 2012
  3. heech

    heech

    So.. this thread kind of faded? New year, more interest I hope.

    But I'm confused. A couple of weeks ago, I saw the bid/offer on this instrument quoted with size showing something like 25000/25000... which I understood to be the vega notional number.

    Now today, I see it quoted with size of 1-5. What happened? sle?
     
    #113     Jan 3, 2013
  4. none of us can trade it through our brokers yet.. and I can't find anyone offering it yet...
     
    #114     Jan 3, 2013
  5. heech

    heech

    I have no problems executing trades on it both on the screen and thru brokers, if I just understood it.
     
    #115     Jan 3, 2013
  6. Im confused outside of the math what variance units represent.. and why are they even calculated... i have to think of things in some analogy to get it sometimes...
     
    #116     Jan 4, 2013
  7. heech

    heech

    Oh, okay... they just added a multiplier of 1000. See:

    http://cfe.cboe.com/publish/CFEregcirc/CFERG12-056.pdf

    People are going to be awfully confused when they place an order for '1' and end up with.. 97 futures contracts (at today's price).
     
    #117     Jan 7, 2013
  8. heech

    heech

    The market for Feb VA was quoted around 13.90/14.80 all day... roughly a 90 cent spread. I've been bidding at 14.65 for the last hour, and the market maker isn't hitting me... so that's kind of unfortunate.
     
    #118     Jan 7, 2013
  9. heech, what broker are u using?
     
    #119     Jan 7, 2013
  10. heech

    heech

    I primarily use Rithmic's trading front-end + CQG occasionally for manual trading. (Most of my trades are automated, but obviously not for VA.)

    I execute at Vision currently. But really, any FCM that self-clears the CFE should be able to handle this contract.
     
    #120     Jan 7, 2013