Cattle Crunch

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by dafeeder, Nov 22, 2011.

  1. also doesn't account for the fact most farmers lose, they just lose
     
    #11     Jan 22, 2012
  2. EMG, have you ever made a live call?
     
    #12     Jan 22, 2012
  3. :eek: :p :D
     
    #13     Jan 22, 2012
  4. I think that is why I put the :confused: in the original post. If it was close to $100 at the time, doesn't that seem like a nice opportunity?

    There are lots of variables when feeding catte, such as MF Global stealing your hedging profits :D and other things. A paper crush, is just a paper crush.
     
    #14     Jan 22, 2012
  5. stoic

    stoic

    According to a USDA report, only about 2% of ranchers use the futures market to offset risk.
     
    #15     Jan 22, 2012
  6. They deal with enough crooks such as packing companies, so no need to deal with the crooks at the CME.
     
    #16     Jan 22, 2012
  7. TraDaToR

    TraDaToR

    Margins can't go much lower, right?
     
    #17     Jan 28, 2012
  8. Markets can remain irrational a lot longer then one thinks.

    Think about the June Live Cattle vs May Feeders. The spread looked way out of line 10 bucks ago in the Fall.
     
    #18     Jan 29, 2012
  9. that sounds like the famous John Maynard Keynes (who went broke) quote

    "Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."
     
    #19     Jan 29, 2012
  10. I haven't heard that comment before, but sounds about the same.
     
    #20     Jan 29, 2012