Cathy Woods - ARK Investment

Discussion in 'Trading' started by brass_trader, Oct 9, 2021.

  1. nitrene

    nitrene

    Last 5 years of performance (Morningstar):

    ARKK +87.34% +3.51% +35.58% +152.82% -2.58%
    QQQ +32.66% -0.12% +38.96% +48.62% +23.50%

    I also calculated the cumulative return per annum for last 5 years & since start date (10/30/2014):

    20141030 arkk 30.68 qqq 21.8 vot 20.7 tqqq 56.5
    20161114 arkk 43 qqq 27.7 vot 20.1 tqqq 75.3

    VOT = Vanguard Mid-Cap Growth
    TQQQ = Direxion 3X QQQ

    Since ARKK is classified I compared it to the mid-cap growth index.

    My interpretation of the results and looking at the charts is that her hyper growth play really outperforms when there is deflation and any hint of prolonged inflation means that these stocks will under perform by a lot. I believe she even stated that on some interviews I saw with her on CNBC.

    ARKK is down 22.7% from the 2/16/2021 high whereas the QQQ is up 18.6% since then. That is a 41.3% underperformance. Even the VOT is up 15%.

    ARKK_QQQ_VOT.YTD.JPG ARKK_QQQ_VOT.5yr.JPG
     
    #41     Nov 9, 2021
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  2. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    More research that 777's opinion will dispute.
     
    #42     Nov 9, 2021
  3. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    {The Big Short} Burry has been vocal about warning about our current stock market bubble.

    "People say I didn't warn last time. I did, but no one listened. So I warn this time. And still, no one listens. But I will have proof I warned," he Tweeted about markets about a year ago.

    He also commented on Tesla golden child Cathie Wood, earlier in the year, Tweeting:

    "It is too early, she is too hot, and, today, short sellers are timid, but Wall Street will be ruthless in the end."
     
    #43     Nov 12, 2021
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  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Now -11.37% for the year with a month and a half to go.
     
    #44     Nov 18, 2021
  5. 777

    777

    Cherry picking short-term results makes you sound both unknowledgeable and desperate to bolster your case.

    If you compare ARKK to either the QQQ or SPY since the inception of ARKk, you will find ARKK has crushed the market.

    I am not implying that a track record starting in 2014 is all one needs to think about. However, I am highlighting your ineffective cherry picking.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2021
    #45     Nov 21, 2021
  6. 777

    777

    On a separate note:


    Cathie is a trader who can quickly cut a position that has a thesis gone wrong, as well as an investor:

    See BABA and Z.

    (I own no Cathie ETF. However, I like this quality and many people do not have it)
     
    #46     Nov 21, 2021
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  7. RedDuke

    RedDuke

    I do not think we can cut quickly as some holdings will be be easy to get out off.
     
    #47     Nov 21, 2021
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  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    And then you cherry-pick as well.

    What about new clients to the fund this year. Do they care what the fund did last year?

    Jeezuz
     
    #48     Nov 21, 2021
  9. 777

    777


    Illiquidity and excessive leverage have been the downfall of many, from overally optimistic day traders all the way up to King Term Capital.

    The best traders successfully weave together:

    Edge
    Risk Management
    Opportunity Cost
     
    #49     Nov 22, 2021
  10. fan27

    fan27

    One buys the ARK ETFs to get exposure to certain areas of technology. Comparing them to a broad market index is apples and oranges.
     
    #50     Nov 22, 2021