I wonder if it bothers the religious that atheists have brilliant physicists, biologists, mathematicians arguing for the atheist side, while they have, really, no one of credible intelligence. For three hundred years now, the Christian astronomer has known that his Diety didn't make the stars in those tremendous six days; but the Christian astronomer doesn't enlarge upon that detail. Neither does the priest. Samuel Clemens- Letters from the Earth
No what bothers me is that you do make claims like the above not out of ignorance... but out of malice. Clemons was not aware time is relative - so in that respect he was as ignorant. Science does not support the atheist side. Science just reports. Its idiots like Et Atheists who mis represent science.
What? Where did agnosticism come in? Yes there are some agnostic life scientists. But the VAST majority of them., something like 90- 95%, including the best in the field, are atheists and believe that life arose and evolved on earth by natural processes. That's just a fact, sorry. All these little lightweight contradictory stories you dredge up does not change that fact. Just as a few contradictory opinions does not change the fact that 97% of all the world's climatologists and all the world's science organizations believe in man-made global warming.
prove that and include the questions or the definitions when I see these polls they always lump agnostics in with atheists. definitions Atheists say there is no God. Agnostics waiting for proof. Note... the Nature magazine poll of scientist found that 40 percent do believe and an additional number might be categorized as Deists... but todays definition of Deist.
n 1996, we repeated Leuba's 1914 survey and reported our results in Nature [3]. We found little change from 1914 for American scientists generally, with 60.7% expressing disbelief or doubt. This year, we closely imitated the second phase of Leuba's 1914 survey to gauge belief among "greater" scientists, and find the rate of belief lower than ever â a mere 7% of respondents. Leuba attributed the higher level of disbelief and doubt among "greater" scientists to their "superior knowledge, understanding, and experience" [3]. Similarly, Oxford University scientist Peter Atkins commented on our 1996 survey, "You clearly can be a scientist and have religious beliefs. But I don't think you can be a real scientist in the deepest sense of the word because they are such alien categories of knowledge." [4] Such comments led us to repeat the second phase of Leuba's study for an up-to-date comparison of the religious beliefs of "greater" and "lesser" scientists. Our chosen group of "greater" scientists were members of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS). Our survey found near universal rejection of the transcendent by NAS natural scientists. Disbelief in God and immortality among NAS biological scientists was 65.2% and 69.0%, respectively, and among NAS physical scientists it was 79.0% and 76.3%. Most of the rest were agnostics on both issues, with few believers. We found the highest percentage of belief among NAS mathematicians (14.3% in God, 15.0% in immortality). Biological scientists had the lowest rate of belief (5.5% in God, 7.1% in immortality), with physicists and astronomers slightly higher (7.5% in God, 7.5% in immortality). Overall comparison figures for the 1914, 1933 and 1998 surveys appear in Table 1. http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html so I was a little off, but only 5.5% of greater biologists believe in God
well you know that is a new age definition of atheist... so stu do you say there is no God or are you waiting for proof? now in your troll persona do you say you are waiting for proof or do you say there is no God.
I read some background on that 20 year old survey... 50 percent did not respond. And we wall know what happens to some professors who go speaking their mind about God on campus. and note as they were compiling their findings NAS sent out a booklet encouraging the teaching of evolution in schools. ".... Because of the relatively small size of NAS membership, we sent our survey to all 517 NAS members in those core disciplines. Leuba obtained a return rate of about 70% in 1914 and more than 75% in 1933 whereas our returns stood at about 60% for the 1996 survey and slightly over 50% from NAS members [1,2]. As we compiled our findings, the NAS issued a booklet encouraging the teaching of evolution in public schools, an ongoing source of friction between the scientific community and some conservative Christians in the United States. The booklet assures readers, "Whether God exists or not is a question about which science is neutral"[5]. NAS president Bruce Alberts said: "There are many very outstanding members of this academy who are very religious people, people who believe in evolution, many of them biologists." Our survey suggests otherwise." http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html
You mean in my always the same persona, as opposed to your sockpuppet res judicata / jem trolling religious birther denier creationist - persona? The definition is clear. You simply struggle with it until you've managed to confuse yourself again.