Cars Impervious to Wrecks

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by vanzandt, May 11, 2020.

  1. Sig

    Sig

    My 3 year old Volvo has pretty much the same software capabilities as a Tesla. And that's Volvo, doesn't get any more boring than that, right?
    I work with another part of Elon's empire and realize that much of what he says and portrays is, shall we say, aspirational. If you take what he says literally, then he's full of shit. If you take it with a huge grain of salt, he's still done some groundbreaking stuff that the haters only dream of. Just don't make the mistake of entirely buying into his hype.
     
    #11     May 12, 2020
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  2. Dazz

    Dazz

    at 36,560 deaths per year - and going up steadily since 1921, apparently the electronics are not helping;
     
    #12     May 12, 2020
  3. Sig

    Sig

    Actually the deaths per mile driven have decreased dramatically. That's how statistics work, when you have only 100 cars in the world it's hard to have more than 100 fatal accidents, when you add several million a year the number of absolute fatal accidents can go up even while the rate decreases.
     
    #13     May 12, 2020
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Bingo. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Cars talking to each other and decisions made based on 10's of thousands of variables analyzed in a millisecond. The only car maker out there that has that kind of data is TSLA. They've been beaming everything back to the mother-ship for years now. Everything. I know the big 3 are trying, but TSLA is light-years ahead.
     
    #14     May 12, 2020
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    #15     May 12, 2020
  6. Sig

    Sig

    I think the only thing other automakers might not have yet is an auto equivalent to a TCAS resolution advisory in planes, i.e. the two cars negotiate to decide the best action to avoid a collision and then automatically both take that action. That's orders of magnitude harder to do in a car than an airplane since you've only got the one dimension to maneuver in and you've almost certainly got other fixed and moving obstructions to deal with, many of which will never be able to talk to you (pedestrians, cyclists). Not to mention that many of the other cars out there won't be talking to you either. And there's a whole aspect of that which we haven't even begun to grapple with yet. There will inevitably be situations where there is no answer that avoids a collision, all the system can do is minimize the death count. What if the right answer to that is for your car to kill you in order to save the 5 kids in the mini-van you were going to hit? Are people going to be willing to get into a vehicle that makes those kind of utilitarian decisions for them?
     
    #16     May 12, 2020
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  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt


    https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/tesla-2020.339221/page-6#post-4997058
    https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/tesla-2020.339221/page-11#post-5015220

     
    #19     May 12, 2020
  10. d08

    d08

    The data does not matter if it's not utilized. That's also hardly TSLA specific, anyone can build this. Their cars seem to be of poor build quality, basic things like panels not matching etc.
    And like @Sig said, it's useless if you're only talking to a few percent of total vehicles.
     
    #20     May 12, 2020