Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home

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  1. Cap and Trade: A License Required for your Home

    We encourage you to read the provisions of the Cap and Trade Bill that has passed the House of Representatives and being considered by the Senate. We are ready to join the next march on Washington!
    This Congress and whoever on their staffs that write this junk are truly out to destroy the middle class of the USA....

    A License Required for your house

    Thinking about selling your house - A look at H.R. 2454 (Cap and trade bill) This is unbelievable!

    Only the beginning from this administration! Home owners take note & tell your friends and relatives who are home owners!

    Beginning 1 year after enactment of the Cap and Trade Act, you won't be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with the energy and water efficiency standards of this Act. H.R. 2454, the "Cap & Trade" bill passed by the House of Representatives, if also passed by the Senate, will be the largest tax increase any of us has ever experienced.

    The Congressional Budget Office (supposedly non-partisan) estimates that in just a few years the average cost to every family of four will be $6,800 per year.

    * No one is excluded.

    However, once the lower classes feel the pinch in their wallets, you can be sure these voters get a tax refund (even if they pay no taxes at all) to offset this new cost. Thus, you Mr. and Mrs. Middle Class America will have to pay even more since additional tax dollars will be needed to bail out everyone else.

    But wait. This awful bill (that no one in Congress has actually read) has many more surprises in it. Probably the worst one is this:

    * A year from now you won't be able to sell your house. Yes, you read that right.

    The caveat is (there always is a caveat) that if you have enough money to make required major upgrades to your home, then you can sell it. But, if not, then forget it. Even pre-fabricated homes ("mobile homes") are included.

    * In effect, this bill prevents you from selling your home without the permission of the EPA administrator.
    * To get this permission, you will have to have the energy efficiency of your home measured.
    * Then the government will tell you what your new energy efficiency requirement is and you will be forced to make modifications to your home under the retrofit provisions of this Act to comply with the new energy and water efficiency requirements.
    * Then you will have to get your home measured again and get a license (called a "label" in the Act) that must be posted on your property to show what your efficiency rating is; sort of like the Energy Star efficiency rating label on your refrigerator or air conditioner.
    * If you don't get a high enough rating, you can't sell. And, the EPA administrator is authorized to raise the standards every year, even above the automatic energy efficiency increases built into the Act.

    The EPA administrator, appointed by the President, will run the Cap & Trade program (AKA the "American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009") and is authorized to make any future changes to the regulations and standards he alone determines to be in the government's best interest. Requirements are set low initial y so the bill will pass Congress; then the Administrator can set much tougher new standards every year.

    * The Act itself contains annual required increases in energy efficiency for private and commercial residences and buildings.
    * However, the EPA administrator can set higher standards at any time.

    Sect. 202:
    Building Retrofit Program mandates a national retrofit program to increase the energy efficiency of all existing homes across America .

    Beginning 1 year after enactment of the Act, you won't be able to sell your home unless you retrofit it to comply with the energy and water efficiency standards of this Act.

    You had better sell soon, because the standards will be raised each year and will be really hard (i.e., ex$pen$ive) to meet in a few years. Oh, goody! The Act allows the government to give you a grant of several thousand dollars to comply with the retrofit program requirements if you meet certain energy efficiency levels. But, wait, the State can set additional requirements on who qualifies to receive the grants.

    You should expect requirements such as "can't have an income of more than $50K per year", "home selling price can't be more than $125K", or anything else to target the upper middle class (and that's YOU) and prevent them from qualifying for the grants.
    Most of us won't get a dime and will have to pay the entire cost of the retrofit out of our own pockets. More transfer of wealth, more "change you can believe in."

    Sect. 204:
    Building Energy Performance Labeling Program establishes a labeling program that for each individual residence will identify the achieved energy efficiency performance for "at least 90 percent of the residential market within 5 years after the date of the enactment of this Act."

    This means that within 5 years 90% of all residential homes in the U.S. must be measured and labeled. The EPA administrator will get $50M each year to enforce the labeling program. The Secretary of the Department of Energy will get an additional $20M each year to help enforce the labeling program. Some of this money will, of course, be spent on coming up with tougher standards each year.

    Oh, the label will be like a license for your car. You will be required to post the label in a conspicuous location in your home and will not be allowed to sell your home without having this label.
    And, just like your car license, you will probably be required to get a new label every so often - maybe every year.
    But, the government estimates the cost of measuring the energy efficiency of your home should only cost about $200 each time.

    Remember what they said about the auto smog inspections when they first started: that in California it would only cost $15. That was when the program started. Now the cost is about $50 for the inspection and certificate; a 333% increase. Expect the same from the home labeling program.

    Sect. 304:
    Greater Energy Efficiency in Building Codes establishes new energy efficiency guidelines for the National Building Code and mandates at 304(d), Application of National Code to State and Local Jurisdictions, that 1 year after enactment of this Act, all state and local jurisdictions must adopt the National Building Code energy efficiency provisions or must obtain a certification from the federal government that their state and/or local codes have been brought into full compliance with the National Building Code energy efficiency standards.

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    H.R. 2454: American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 (
  2. What a lot whining.

    In Australia you already need a sustainability declaration to sell your home. It has had zero effect on property prices - in fact property prices are rising at an "unsustainable" rate.
  3. DISCLAIMER: If you have never seen the venting of the gastropod's full fury - you need to move on to the next post! NO SHIT - IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ME VENT -MOVE THE FUCK ON!!!! FURTHER - THIS REPLY IS ONLY FOR AMERICANS!!!! IF YOU ARE IN EUROPE or ANY OTHER PLACE ON EARTH - SAVE THE USA - YOU NEED TO GO TO THE NEXT POST!!!!

    This reaction is because the VAST MAJORITY OF MOTHERFUCKERS OUT HERE have NEVER HEARD OF THE TERM ALLODIAL OR ALLODIUM!!!! This concept was removed from education by our WORTHLESS grandparents and parents. Yes, your semen sucking grandparents or parents or great-great grandparents decided that they were worthless pieces of shit, and that your parents or you were NOT worth losing their life over!!!!!!!!! READ AND UNDERSTAND THAT STATEMENT AS MANY TIMES AS NEEDED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IT!!!! America was "founded" with the understanding of allodial title - free of FUCKING ARISTOCRACY and OLIGARCHY. When our ancestors sucked the semen of the fucking bastards who waved "safety and security" for a " little freedom" - our ancestors said "OK". FUCK OUR ANCESTORS!!!! Why do I say this? Go read your constitution about what money is! Go read about "taxes"! Go read about most of what "the founders" thought we have/had as INALIENABLE RIGHTS - read NOT FUCKING GRANTED BY GOV'T - BUT BY GOD - THEREBY GOV'T COULD NOT TAKE AWAY FROM US!!!!

    End of Rant!

    Return to your regular schedule - :D


    P.S. - Why only Americans??? Because Europeans and the rest of the world have ALWAYS been considered slaves and don't generally know the difference - they think Americans who DON'T want to be slaves are evil, backward, rebellious, "tobacca chawin'" dolts!
  4. More whining.
  5. Hello dcraig, do you mean whining by me or the OP?
    Thanks - gastrpod
  6. Both. Wherever you live in whatever western country, there are restrictions on what you can do with your property imposed for purposes of town planning, hygiene etc etc etc. They are, for the most part not unreasonable - though of course one can always find instances of administrative silliness. I fail to see how requirements for energy and water efficiency fall into some separate category. Traditional town planning and energy efficiency are both instances of environmental planning.

    Aside from all out nuclear war, human induced climate change is the biggest threat to humanity this century - without a doubt. We can either address that in a reasonable and measured manner starting now or not. Energy efficiency is the low hanging fruit - if anything it very likely has a positive economic payback.

    If we do not address emissions, the day will come when the writing is so clearly on the wall that draconian measures are the only option left. The choice is stark and simple - accept the most minor of regulations for the common good (your's and your descendants included) or face a very uncertain future of environmental destruction on a scale not seen in human history AND massive government intervention to deal with the mess because there is no other way out.

    So are we going to do it the easy way or the hard way? If you care about your way of life as you profess to then you need to seriously think this through.
  7. GTS


    Why do you say that you will probably be required to get a new label every so often? If the only time you are required to comply with the EPA standards is when you go to sell your home then it only makes sense that that is when you would be forced to get the assessment/label. What would be the point of getting periodic labels when you weren't planning on selling your home? Unless you can cite something to back that up it sounds like fud.
  8. You REALLY need to go and read "The Report From Iron Mountain" - in spite of the bullshit claims that it is a hoax. It is no hoax! You will understand "global warming" and other mind manipulation endeavors. Your "understanding" of reality is VERY flawed. I USED to be a Republican - not anymore!!! Republicans and Democrats generally sit on the same side of the fence! J.P. Morgan laughed about how he had "bought" elections - by supplying money to both sides of the field. MANY of our "elected officials" are no more than pawns to a group of people who THINK they have a right to control the "useless eaters" - you and I are considered "useless eaters!" I say to hell with such a crowd! McCain and Obama were SELECTED by these same "elite individuals". I believe the election of 2008 was a fraud and the American public was NEVER allowed to select whom they wanted as president! McAsshole was WAY behind in the polls - Ron Paul would have won the Republican side, but the "elite" didn't want that - their power would have been evaporated. On the Dem side - Hillary would have won.....but the Bilderbergers decided otherwise....go and check out where Obama and Hil were in June of 2008 - they were in Virginia at the Bilderberg meeting. The Bilderbergers decided that Obama should win - NO MATTER HOW - even if Obama was NOT a natural born citizen - US constitution be damned!!! Word on the street is that the big "O" will not be pres soon - court cases still in the works about "O's" citizenship will knock him out of the presidency. When/If that happens - all hell will break out in the US!. I don't want "O" to be president, but I do NOT want the hell that will erupt if he is found to NOT be eligible and therefore thrown out! If those "prognisticators" are correct - I would rather see an orderly succession of power! Either way - check out "The Report from Iron Mountain" - you will understand that "global warming" is a fraud - thought up in the 1960s by the Kennedy admin! "Global warming" is designed to control the populace - not save the planet!