Discussion in 'Politics' started by John_Wensink, Aug 20, 2009.
To think of the gov't managing healthcare is terrifying.
Medicare and Medicaid patients don't complain nearly as much a private ins patients
I'd take Medicare over my ins any day
You won't have that choice because medicare, caid and SS are bankrupt.
See, that's why it's a problem.
Is it sinking in yet?
Add in the fact that the USPS budget has a huge sucking sound coming from it and how screwed up the DMV is and it blatantly obvious that the healthcare the government wants to offer will be horrible.
The biggest laugh of the debate is when they get up there and say it will deficit neutral.
It wont take much of an increase to stabilize programs like SS and Medicaid
The cost of private insurance gos up higher and much faster then the cost of programs like SS and Medicare
"Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said on October 4, 2006: "Reform of our unsustainable entitlement programs should be a priority." He added, "the imperative to undertake reform earlier rather than later is great." The tax increases or benefit cuts required to maintain the system as it exists under current law are significantly higher the longer such changes are delayed. For example, raising the payroll tax rate to 14.4% during 2009 (from the current 12.4%) or cutting benefits by 13.3% would address the program's budgetary concerns indefinitely; these amounts increase to around 16% and 24% if no changes are made until 2037.
An increase of just 2 % would stabilize the program for decades ,Private insurance prices are raising 10-20 % per year
I hope that sinks in for you
Lets also not forget the huge surpluses programs like SS and Medicare have been providing for years
Sure it will.
And there won't be any Lobbyist in the Obama Administration ... Except When There Is One.
And there will be more transparency, except when there's not.
And BO's going to reign in government spending, except when he doesn't.
And BO's going to negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN, except when he doesn't.
And BO's going to a allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009, except when he doesn't.
And BO's going to Create a $3,000 tax credit for companies that add jobs, unless he changes his mind.
And Bo's going to allow five days of public comment before signing bills, unless he's in a hurry and doesn't want anyone to read the bill first.
And BO's going to end income tax for seniors making less than $50,000, unless he decides to squander the money paying back political favors.
"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think."
Ah, that's incorrect.
Like moving money out of your savings causing an overdrawn balance to pay off checking and pretending you have money ignoring the deficit.
Even barney frank says "technically" they are bankrupt. Ya, technically.
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