Can't get filled on the bid

Discussion in 'Options' started by ET180, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. DeltaRisk

    DeltaRisk

    Low latency algo will fix this.
     
    #21     Aug 26, 2017
  2. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    1. That's true, but in the cases I was looking at, the underlying was stable.
    2. I've seen this when trading one lots many times. Most recent example was on DLTR before earnings.

    WE can chatter around this forever. YOUR BROKER OWES YOU A FILL. Options trade on 15 exchanges - with the exception of VIX and SPX. Some still single list but very few. Quotes are 10 up electronic with trade through protection. If you improve a market for one option your order will not be reflected. This is the derived order rule - where people would improve a market for one lot and then expect the exchange to show 10 up and try to hit the other nine from a different account, but that not what anyone is talking about. However if you one lot sale doesn't fill at the bid - your broker screwed up and owes you a fill.
    DLTR is multiply listed and quotes include size. You should be able to sell hundreds at the bid and buy hundreds at the offer.
    Order qualifiers can screw this up, but even a 10 lot all or none done at the bid/offer will fill instantly.
     
    #22     Aug 26, 2017
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  3. ironchef

    ironchef

    That is strange. Never happened to me. When my offered lot was less than bid lot, I always got my fill.o_O After the fill, sometimes the bid changed.
     
    #23     Aug 26, 2017
  4. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Of course you should have been filled instantly. It's when you improve the NBBO with less than a 10 lot. You won't see your improvement
     
    #24     Aug 26, 2017
  5. If you use direct over "auto", which exchange is usually the best to route you order to for getting filled? I use Etrade and trade AAPL options 10+ contracts, limit with AON most of the time.
     
    #25     Aug 29, 2017
  6. ET180

    ET180

    Here's another example from today. Tried to sell an ITM 104 PUT to convert a short call into a short straddle. Could not get filled even when offering $0.05 below the best bid. Also could not get filled at best bid.

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    #26     Sep 1, 2017
  7. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Stale quote. Call your help desk. You can tell by the inverted market and size. Your broker is doing a bang up job.
    They owe you a fill.
     
    #27     Sep 1, 2017