cannot believe that buffet sold a complex option ...

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by mind, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. zdreg

    zdreg

    not to hurt your feelings but only an idiot except a professional who is in the insurance business would sell a naked 13 year option.
     
    #41     Nov 25, 2008
  2. Mercor

    Mercor

    Buffet needs the money today. He figures he will be dead by 2019. Not his probelm.
     
    #42     Nov 25, 2008
  3. kaciara

    kaciara

    ah ah : -)
     
    #43     Nov 25, 2008


  4. what does been a european option have to do with ANYTHING? who the hell would exercise them with 10+ years of premium left.

    What i am saying is you can still trade the contract just like any other option contracts, you can also lock in the profit by opening up another leg against the position.

    .............
     
    #44     Nov 25, 2008
  5. tman

    tman

    I'll bet Taleb took the other side.
     
    #45     Nov 25, 2008
  6. Taleb buys tails not ATM. Had Buffett sold OTM he'd be filing for BK right about now.
     
    #46     Nov 26, 2008
  7. Cutten

    Cutten

    You don't need to know any facts other than that he sold a big put earlier this year, and the market is down huge. Thus, the trade sucked big donkey balls.
     
    #47     Nov 26, 2008
  8. Cutten

    Cutten

    No - OTM is less risky on a per contract basis than ATM.
     
    #48     Nov 26, 2008
  9. Cutten

    Cutten

    Insurers underwrite far bigger risks all the time. Everything you said about counterparty risk applies to the people on the other side of Buffett's trade too. You say you'd never sell a put. Even if the premium was $30 bill and the max loss was $1? Ok, lol. But you're not a trader in that case.


     
    #49     Nov 26, 2008
  10. Cutten

    Cutten

    The counterparty could hedge now just by purchasing S&P futures, getting a locked in profit. The market could then recover by 2019, leaving Buffett with his $5 billion premium. Both parties would make money in that case.
     
    #50     Nov 26, 2008