Cancel culture has gone too far

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. userque

    userque

    Depends on the state, and any employment contracts/agreements.

    But generally, with public figures, there are morality etc. clauses that give the 'employer' broad cancellation abilities, imo.
     
    #791     Oct 19, 2021
  2. Wallet

    Wallet

    :thumbsup:

    Imo, when people act on their own, outside of and not related to their work, one’s own free speech is hard to mute.

    When in conjunction or involved in business, when branded by corporate logos, uniforms, etc. then the employer has rights.
     
    #792     Oct 19, 2021
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    sure you do:

    and that's just one topic. There are dozens of posts on how "free speech" you are towards antifa demonstrations, boycotts to corporations, and Israeli opposition to atrocities in Palestine.
     
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    #793     Oct 19, 2021
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  4. userque

    userque

    Actually, the morality clause likely include actions "when people act on their own, outside of and not related to their work."

    This is so because the person can still be connected to the business, and
    it's included in the contract that the entertainer signed/agreed-to, etc.
     
    #794     Oct 19, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Ggod luck with you assertions. Did I raise a mob online to threaten Kaepernick, protest outside his house, not let him speak his beliefs off the campus of his employer? There is a difference between free speech and Cancel Culture.

    Doing something on your employer’s field which offends half the fans — is a significant issue impacting the employer’s retention of paying customers. There is a significant line between doing something while representing your employer and using free speech outside of work.

    Why don’t you look into what Ruth Bader Ginsburg thought of kneeling players while you are at it.
     
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    #795     Oct 19, 2021
  6. Wallet

    Wallet

    When you’re talking celebrities, athletes tis a grey area, still imho, there has to be a platform where they can speak for themselves. Sometimes you can be your own worst enemy.


    When we drop down to the level us mere mortals, people are often punished in their careers for their personal opinions stated completely outside and non-related to the work place
     
    #796     Oct 19, 2021
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    could've fooled me:

     
    #797     Oct 19, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes, and the United States Olympic Committee is your sponsor giving you access to training, facilities, travel, etc. You should respect the flag of the country you are representing at an international event.
     
    #798     Oct 19, 2021
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  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    GWB:
    You don't get to exercise your first on your employer's dime

    Also GWB:
    You don't get to exercise your first
     
    #799     Oct 19, 2021
  10. userque

    userque

    That's the cost of being in the public eye. You aren't required to be in the public eye, nor are you required to sign the contracts.

    They can speak for themselves, but if they say something that offends the customer base, then there may be consequences.

    There is a dress code at work. A conduct code. Etc. It applies publicly to public figures. If one wants to be offensive on their own time, maybe consider a different career.

    Whether right or wrong, it is what it is.
    True.

    People can also not be hired due to their opinions. So it stands to reason that opinions still matter, even after the job offer is accepted.

    Should the ACLU maintain a mere mortal worker that recently expressed that they support the klan?

    Whether right or wrong, it is what it is.

    If one finds themselves always being ostracized by the majority because of their opinions; maybe there's a message somewhere in that.
     
    #800     Oct 19, 2021